Bloomberg for President?

Suddenly said:
Pre-2016 Democrats were just fine keeping Sanders at arms length. The rank and file were hardly looking to be closely associated with him, so mostly he did exactly as they wished. His being an independent was of mutual benefit for him to position himself as an iconoclast and for them to have distance from a socialist ally.

So that is mildly disingenuous. ...
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I think you are overrating Sanders' benefit to the Democratic Party. It's not like he's had a national following for decades.

I am going by what the DNC said when he was griping about being treated unfairly in the primary.

As for mutual benefit, like I said, the story was if the Democratic Party ran a candidate against Sanders it would have split the ticket.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yikes! I turned on the debate a couple minutes ago, right in the middle of Biden and Sanders viciously yelling about Bloomberg and millionaires and billionaires.

It's looks awful that they are out of control with anger.

IIRC, Sanders' bitterness about Clinton was very apparent in the 2016 primary as well. He bitched about the DNC being unfair to him.

Maybe Steyer is better off not being there. Does that really work anymore?

Bloomberg got interrupted twice by Biden, then Todd cut him off to let Bernie get his point in. The other candidates had pretty long turns compared to Bloomberg.


Now Sanders is repeating his same old talking points about all the other countries doing better than us.

Now Biden is at it again, "I'm the only one that did it, I got blah blah blah passed

No Biden, Obama did those things.

Warren's off with a personal constituent example.


Now Biden is screaming again.
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So, did you completely miss the race and sex debacles for Bloomberg?
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
So, did you completely miss the race and sex debacles for Bloomberg?
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Nope, didn't miss them at all.

It has zero to do with the post you quoted. That post was when I turned the debate on and the yelling was obnoxious.

We went through this crap in 2016. Just because I'm skeptical of the Democratic Socialists I get a lot of flak here.

I supported Clinton then and I stand by that.

This time around I'm mostly crossing candidates off my list rather than being behind one. Though I do have a TOM 2020 sign in my yard.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I think you are overrating Sanders' benefit to the Democratic Party. It's not like he's had a national following for decades.

I am going by what the DNC said when he was griping about being treated unfairly in the primary.

As for mutual benefit, like I said, the story was if the Democratic Party ran a candidate against Sanders it would have split the ticket.
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My whole point is that if anything, pre-2016 Sanders' direct help would have not been welcome, so not really overstating.

He was a vote in the Senate. A Democrat in all but name. They would be silly to run against someone so they could get a senator that would vote basically the same but maybe dress better.

I think the 2016 gripes are overblown. Still, if the DNC's ability to apply their own rules is affected by one's standing in the party, then the DNC is just proving they aren't following their rules.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Nope, didn't miss them at all.

It has zero to do with the post you quoted. That post was when I turned the debate on and the yelling was obnoxious.

We went through this crap in 2016. Just because I'm skeptical of the Democratic Socialists I get a lot of flak here.

I supported Clinton then and I stand by that.

This time around I'm mostly crossing candidates off my list rather than being behind one. Though I do have a TOM 2020 sign in my yard.
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Bloomberg flopped hard, and this thread is about Bloomberg, but all you are talking about from the debate is why you dislike the other candidates?
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Bloomberg flopped hard, and this thread is about Bloomberg, but all you are talking about from the debate is why you dislike the other candidates?
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His closing statement was the best (minus the part about not asking for money)
Pointing out that the POTUS needs to be a capable and credentialed manager, while the rest of the candidates were giving stump speeches appealing to emotion.
 
Suddenly said:
My whole point is that if anything, pre-2016 Sanders' direct help would have not been welcome, so not really overstating.

He was a vote in the Senate. A Democrat in all but name. They would be silly to run against someone so they could get a senator that would vote basically the same but maybe dress better.

I think the 2016 gripes are overblown. Still, if the DNC's ability to apply their own rules is affected by one's standing in the party, then the DNC is just proving they aren't following their rules.
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He wasn't always a Senator. He was a Rep in the House for a while.

I really don't understand your point.
 
Distracted1 said:
His closing statement was the best (minus the part about not asking for money)
Pointing out that the POTUS needs to be a capable and credentialed manager, while the rest of the candidates were giving stump speeches appealing to emotion.
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I thought that was terrible. I don't think left, right, or center want a manager for president.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Bloomberg flopped hard, and this thread is about Bloomberg, but all you are talking about from the debate is why you dislike the other candidates?
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The threads are (temporarily) conflated because Bloomberg was in the debate tonight.

Sorry. Tomorrow the discussions will be separate again.
 
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Suddenly said:
Now click on the 24 hour trend line. Isolate for Bloomberg.

Minus four cents was the last trade. He's lost roughly half his value since the debate began.
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The sad thing is that there is roughly a 100% chance that Bloomberg has socks pumping some money into this and it still tanked.
 
Distracted1 said:
I think that is exactly what the center wants.
Ideology is useless without the ability to get anything accomplished.
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Who cares how much you can get done if your ideas are garbage?

If Bloomberg wants to put his wealth in a blind charitable trust and sign on to be chief of staff for whoever wins, then his point makes more sense. A president isn't the manager. He's the guy that hires managers.
 
I Am The Scum said:
You're moving the goalposts.
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We are following two different strands of reality here.

We were discussing Bernie's contributions to the Democrats and you said he campaigned for Clinton. I thought you were being sarcastic because IMO, he only put in a half-assed effort.
 
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