Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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Trump Tweets

Internal REAL Polls show I am beating all of the Dem candidates. The Fake News Polls (here we go again, just like 2016) show losing or tied. Their polls will be proven corrupt on November 3rd, just like the Fake News is corrupt!
 
TragicMonkey said:
I find it odd considering the election is upcoming. If I were an incumbent president I'd be avoiding any actions that look controversial or iffy until after the election. But I'm very different from Trump. Either he's got some cunning scheme at work or is just that stupid/crazy. I'm getting tired of having to guess between those two possibilities. It seems to boil down to those a lot of the time!
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But if you are feeling empowered as Trump is, then fewer things before the election matter to you.

This isn't strictly about what Trump can get away with. It's also about Trump seeing himself as invincible.
 
Trump Tweets

Rod Blagojevich did not sell the Senate seat. He served 8 years in prison, with many remaining. He paid a big price. Another Comey and gang deal! Thank you to @LisaMarieBoothe who really “gets” what’s going on! @FoxNews
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Rod Blagojevich did not sell the Senate seat. He served 8 years in prison, with many remaining. He paid a big price. Another Comey and gang deal! Thank you to @LisaMarieBoothe who really “gets” what’s going on! @FoxNews
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Depends on what's next. Do you find the timing of these pardons odd coming soon after the impeachment was over?
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Not at all. (Also no matter what time he chose people would claim the timing was because of this or that)
Do you think he has been emboldened by its the outcome of the impeachment? I don't think so because I don't think he ever thought there was a chance of his conviction.
It has been a foregone conclusion from the start by both sides.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Internal REAL Polls show I am beating all of the Dem candidates. The Fake News Polls (here we go again, just like 2016) show losing or tied. Their polls will be proven corrupt on November 3rd, just like the Fake News is corrupt!
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:dl:

I picture the people around the emperor telling him how gorgeous his clothes are.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
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I picture the people around the emperor telling him how gorgeous his clothes are.
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You might want to scale back on that sort of thing...

After all, the equivalent would be a naked trump being complemented by his cronies. Do you really want THAT image in your head?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Rod Blagojevich did not sell the Senate seat. He served 8 years in prison, with many remaining. He paid a big price.
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Plus he was impeached. We all know that that is a really big punishment, and after impeachment a politician really learns their lesson!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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There must be JUSTICE. This can never happen to a President, or our Country, again!

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Lee Zeldin
@RepLeeZeldin
There are high expectations that the Justice Dept will very soon deliver transparency & ACCOUNTABILITY regarding DOJ/FBI officials who weaponized the awesome powers at their disposal in order to target the Trump campaign. Frustrated Americans demand justice! It’s LONG overdue!

Angry is a big time understatement. Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler should be stripped of their gavels and the Dems should be removed from power in Nov for their corrupt, rigged, rushed impeachment, hijacking Congress to appease a radical activist liberal base. Angry? Buckle up!

“When law ends, tyranny begins.”
The Trump-Russia collusion hoax was rigged w/gross misconduct!
The targeting of AG Barr isn’t because he is missing the mark. It’s because he is laser focused on it center mass.

The more drained out the swamp gets, the more the swamp creatures act out in protest.
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The "Trump Tyranny Train" is ramping up: Beware! The Orange Witch is hunting! Be more watchful than ever of how much Justice he will destroy!
 
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Segnosaur said:
Which is of course wrong. Self-funding a campaign is not illegal. Possibly a moral grey area, but not illegal.

Rather ironic, considering that in 2016 Trump claimed that he was "self funding" his campaign (for at least part of the time).

Of course in Trump's case it was bunk... he ended up getting significant donations from outside sources.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec.../donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/
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And let’s not forget President Trump’s musings before the trial. “You know, a lot of you are up for election in closely contested states. In a few months we’re going to have to decide which candidates get money from the national coffers and which don’t. Just sayin’. “
 
Segnosaur said:
Maybe Bloomberg will put together more attack ads along the lines of "Willy Horton"...

"Trump claims he's for law and order, but he cut years out of these criminal's prison sentences".
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Do you think anyone who supports President Trump or even is leaning toward supporting him is going to be upset that a few dozen white men with fame, money, or connections got out of prison?

Plus Team Trump will not have to construct a complex or lengthy argument to support his actions. They will just say President Obama pardoned way, way more people than President Trump. And, because they never pass up an opportunity to accuse someone else of something the president has already done, they’ll follow that with “and most of Obama’s pardons were based on connections.”



Trump is a Forrest Gump-like character... he succeeds not because of any special intelligence or abilities, but largely by luck.
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Oh, he has a special ability. He’s a fast-talking, loud-mouthed con man who honed his skills in reality TV.
 
Horatius said:
I think it's simpler than that: now he knows he can do whatever he wants. Read some of the background on these pardons, some have been discussed for more than a year now. He's wanted to pardon a lot of these people for a long time, but was probably being told not to do it by those "adults in the room" we keep hearing about, who probably told him it was a bad idea that would cost him some support.

But now, he's beaten the rap on a serious impeachment charge, and that proves to him that the only people who could stop him won't stop him. So now he will ignore the nay-sayers, and just do whatever he wants, as soon as he gets it into his head to do it.

Expect more of this sort of thing.
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I agree with this assessment. Trump views his acquittal as a license to do whatever he wants because he's been clearly shown that his lapdogs in the Senate and Bill Barr will do nothing to stop him. For him to claim he's the "top law enforcement officer in the country" is delusional and dangerous.

If you take a look at who Trump has pardoned or commuted their sentence, a large amount are for financial crimes such as tax fraud, campaign fraud, obstruction of justice, and perjury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
The coup cabal is worried about Barr:...
Meanwhile, Obama gang interfered in Russia election interference investigation to protect Obama's emails while crookedly spying on @realdonaldtrump. Again the Clinton email scandal cover-up is as much about protecting Obama as it is about protecting Clinton.

"[The Deep State] is concerned that AG Barr might do the right thing and they are desperate to do everything to stop him from prosecuting the criminal gangs that targeted @realDonaldTrump and other innocent Americans.”
Over 11 years ago, FBI interviewed Barack Obama about sale of his Senate seat. There's a FBI "302" report of interview. Rather than releasing document, DOJ has fought @JudicialWatch tooth and nail to keep it secret. #blagojevich

Reagan ordered halt of a criminal grand jury investigation against British Airways in 1984. George HW Bush ordered to DOJ to investigate police in wake of Rodney King rioting. Obama directed DOJ action after Eric Garner acquittal.
President @realDonaldTrump has a positive constitutional obligation to speak up about DOJ corruption.

Barr should clean house at DOJ...@realDonalldTrump,was the victim of a seditious conspiracy out of DOJ/FBI, etc. President Trump can also appoint a special counsel directly.
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I'm still confused: Who is he talking to? The cheering MAGA crowd don't understand all this and don't give a damn, the'll vote for him no matter what. The intelligent republicans (oh, sure, there are such people) do, but don't give a damn. The intelligent Dems do, but don't give a damn. The Dem simple folks don't, and don't give a damn, they vote foe anybody who is not Trump.

What is the purpose of all this?

Hans
 
ponderingturtle said:
Well it worked for his attempted bribery. That is a winning argument with republicans now.
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The Simpsons already did it, including the role of right-wing media. The only thing they got so very wrong is when Sideshow Bob publicly displays and explains the evidence of his crimes and then, inexplicably, faces consequences for his actions. Totally unrealistic.
 
Ladewig said:
Oh, he has a special ability. He’s a fast-talking, loud-mouthed con man who honed his skills in reality TV.
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Trump is dumber than dirt, but he, like addle-pated Sarah Palin, possesses a certain cunning I suspect is lodged in the reptilian brain.
 
FWIW...

Julian Assange alleges Trump offered him a 'deal': Say Russia didn't hack DNC, get a free pardon

At a London pretrial hearing in the extradition case of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Wednesday, the court was informed that Assange will be calling a witness with explosive testimony. According to Assange’s legal team, that witness will report that Assange was approached while in exile and offered a pardon by the U.S. government if he would claim that Russia was not involved in the theft and release of documents from the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 election.

The visitor bringing this offer, according to Assange’s attorney, was former California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher. But the claim is also that Rohrabacher was there on behalf of Donald Trump, to let Assange walk if he would only say that Russia was not involved.
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...provided Assange could also provide "proof" that it wasn't Russia.
 
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