Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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Stacyhs said:
As much as I enjoy the visual comparison, it would be dishonest to forget that, at the Nuremberg rallies, the people were there explicitly to see Hitler. At Daytona, they were there to see the race. I doubt few, if any, came just because Trump was going to be there.
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Actually, a lot of people are talking. They're saying, "Sir, we didn't even realize there was a race scheduled in Daytona today; we just want to see Trump!"
 
Asked by reporters, "How will he unite the country," Donnie answered:
"You know what's going to unify the country...All you have to do is look at our crowds and look at our support...what unifies it is our great success."
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Then he dropped the mic walked to the helicopter.

I think he means his supporters are the country. The rest of us can drop dead. :(
 
Fast Eddie B said:
As far as Trump outrages go, this incident barely moves my “outrage needle”. Had it been another President doing exactly the same thing, I don’t think we’d be obsessing over it in quite the same way.
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Conversely, if we had a normal president and this was one of the few boneheaded stunts he'd pulled, maybe we'd be all over it. Fox would, for sure.
 
newyorkguy said:
Asked by reporters, "How will he unite the country," Donnie answered:
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"You know what's going to unify the country...All you have to do is look at our crowds and look at our support...what unifies it is our great success."
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Then he dropped the mic walked to the helicopter.

I think he means his supporters are the country. The rest of us can drop dead. :(
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The 'stable genius' has failed to realize that his election divided the country in 2016 and his presidency has divided it even more. He lives in his own little reality bubble surrounded by yes men, sycophants and MAGAheads.
 
Stacyhs said:
The 'stable genius' has failed to realize that his election divided the country in 2016 and his presidency has divided it even more. He lives in his own little reality bubble surrounded by yes men, sycophants and MAGAheads.
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I'm not so sure about that first part. I think he's well aware that there's a sizeable proportion of people who are vehemently opposed to him but he casts them as traitors which both supports his ego and motivates his base.

IMO he knows the electoral mathematics and that's part of why he spends so much time whipping up his base (the rest being that he loves the adulation of a baying mob). If he can get them to turn our then he knows he can comfortably secure reelection.
 
Trump Tweets

Did you hear the latest con job? President Obama is now trying to take credit for the Economic Boom taking place under the Trump Administration. He had the WEAKEST recovery since the Great Depression, despite Zero Fed Rate & MASSIVE quantitative easing. NOW, best jobs numbers....

....ever. Had to rebuild our military, which was totally depleted. Fed Rate UP, taxes and regulations WAY DOWN. If Dems won in 2016, the USA would be in big economic (Depression?) & military trouble right now. THE BEST IS YET TO COME. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!
 
Remember when Obama got impeached? How about when he paid off a porn star?
Remember when paid millions out of court for running a fake university? or remember when Obama he had to shutter his crooked foundation and pay a 2 million fine for stealing from it?
Remember when his ego was so fragile he had to attack his predecessor on Presidents Day?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Remember when Obama got impeached? How about when he paid off a porn star?
Remember when paid millions out of court for running a fake university? or remember when Obama he had to shutter his crooked foundation and pay a 2 million fine for stealing from it?
Remember when his ego was so fragile he had to attack his predecessor on Presidents Day?
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I see this doesn’t have the “Trump Tweets” header, but in my head, I read this as a completely plausible Trump Tweet.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Did you hear the latest con job? President Obama is now trying to take credit for the Economic Boom taking place under the Trump Administration. He had the WEAKEST recovery since the Great Depression...
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Did we hear the latest con job? I just can't get used to seeing a president of the United States expressing himself this way. And as usual, he's lying through his teeth. But you'll never get Trump to address the actual facts.

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Fast Eddie B said:
Maybe.
It appears that GWB made an appearance there in 2004. I don’t recall it being controversial.
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It was apparently during GWB's re-election bid. Seems a normal thing to do, although back then probably not quite for the same reasons Dan Bongino imagines.

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newyorkguy said:
Did we hear the latest con job? I just can't get used to seeing a president of the United States expressing himself this way. And as usual, he's lying through his teeth. But you'll never get Trump to address the actual facts.
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I looked at some graphs about 2 weeks ago about GDP, unemployment and household income trends but didn't post. The conservative argument I heard this morning was that Obama inherited such a depressed economy that there was nowhere to go but upward.

Unemployment rate:
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TofuFighter said:
I looked at some graphs about 2 weeks ago about GDP, unemployment and household income trends but didn't post. The conservative argument I heard this morning was that Obama inherited such a depressed economy that there was nowhere to go but upward...
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Very interesting and very informative. But we're at a point now where facts don't seem to matter to a broad swath of the population. Remember Conway's, "Alternate facts." Giuliani's, "Truth isn't truth." Trump's defenders, even on this forum, will ignore the economic indicators unless they can figure a way to pick them a part.

I was reading in one of the Trump books, at the very first meeting Trump had with Congressional leaders, he opened the meeting by stating he'd actually won the popular vote. That Hillary Clinton had received something like 3 million to 5 million illegal votes. Speaker Nancy Pelosi told the president, "If we're going to work together we are going to have to agree on a certain set of facts."

You know how that worked out, right? :(
 
Belz... said:
A real man's man, I'm sure.
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I suspect that half the time they're just trying to get a trump-bump for themselves because they know that fawning messages will often be retweeted.

Considering the kind of vetting *ahem* that often appears to be applied to retweets, I'm surprised more people don't try and sneak coded messages into tweets to try and get trump to retweet them.
 
newyorkguy said:
Very interesting and very informative. But we're at a point now where facts don't seem to matter to a broad swath of the population. Remember Conway's, "Alternate facts." Giuliani's, "Truth isn't truth." Trump's defenders, even on this forum, will ignore the economic indicators unless they can figure a way to pick them a part.

I was reading in one of the Trump books, at the very first meeting Trump had with Congressional leaders, he opened the meeting by stating he'd actually won the popular vote. That Hillary Clinton had received something like 3 million to 5 million illegal votes. Speaker Nancy Pelosi told the president, "If we're going to work together we are going to have to agree on a certain set of facts."

You know how that worked out, right? :(
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Well, for one thing, pictures work better.

trump's whole schtick is branding. Before becoming president he did the same thing with his development projects, tacking his name on them and declaring endlessly to be 'luxury, super luxury, world class'. The best of the best. Even for [/url="https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/trump-family-business-panama-city-khafif/"]multiple projects[/url] in which he lied about sales or his personal investment in them in order to generate the impression of success. None of this is news to anyone who is paying attention and, I'm sure, to anyone who has lived in New York city for any length of time. He's done the same thing with the presidency, creating an image of success with his continuous exaggeration and lies. Eventually it just seeps into the consciousness of people who are not really examining the detail.

Bloomberg seems to be doing a pretty good job of saturating the airwaves with information contradicting trump's message. Bernie shouldn't complain too much about him just yet. Tom Steyer is also focused on debunking the trump economy myth. That might help keep Democratic or Independent voters informed, but as you rightly say, there's a pretty big part of the electorate who just refuse to hear it or accept it in any way.
 
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