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Should we fear Bernie?

dudalb said:
Obama's policies were not as far to the left as Bernies.
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I wasn't talking about his policies, I'm talking about the raving paranoia in the OP? Or are you trying to say the paranoia is less irrational this time around?
 
Hercules56 said:
Haha.

None of the countries in any of these top ten lists are "Socialist".

They are regulated Capitalist economies with a strong social safety net.

Its funny how so many people get "social democracy" confused with Socialism.

Unless a nation has nationalized all major means of production and engines of industry and commerce, factories & banks etc, they are NOT Socialist.
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And yet in any of those countries, Bernie would be considered a moderate centre left candidate.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I'm having flashbacks to when people were terrified of that black Kenyan muslim who won the election some years ago.
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Obama didn't threaten to increase the yearly budget by 3 trillion dollars or release hundreds of thousands of prisoners from Federal jails.
 
Hercules56 said:
Haha.

None of the countries in any of these top ten lists are "Socialist".

They are regulated Capitalist economies with a strong social safety net.

Its funny how so many people get "social democracy" confused with Socialism.
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Yeah, just look at the OP in this thread.
 
Hercules56 said:
Haha.

None of the countries in any of these top ten lists are "Socialist".

They are regulated Capitalist economies with a strong social safety net.

Its funny how so many people get "social democracy" confused with Socialism.

Unless a nation has nationalized all major means of production and engines of industry and commerce, factories & banks etc, they are NOT Socialist.
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Yup, Bernie isn't a socialist.
 
Relax.

Controlling the means of production is something Bernie Sanders explicitly says he's not for.

Gulags, Berlin wall, Khmer Rouge involved various manifestations of Marxism. That's just not what's going on here.
 
Venom said:
Relax.

Controlling the means of production is something Bernie Sanders explicitly says he's not for.

Gulags, Berlin wall, Khmer Rouge involved various manifestations of Marxism Stalinism. That's just not what's going on here.
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FTFY
 
Bernie Sanders routinely speaks at the DSA yearly convention and regularly applauds and supports their agenda.

That agenda includes:

-the end of all national borders.
-the end of ICE and CBP.
-the destruction of Capitalism.
-state ownership of large industries
-legalized prostitution
-reperations for slavery


when is Bernie going to denounce this ridiculous platform?
 
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Hercules56 said:
Bernie Sanders routinely speaks at the DSA yearly convention and regularly applauds and supports their agenda.

That agenda includes:

-the end of all national borders.
-the end of ICE and CBP.
-the destruction of Capitalism.
-state ownership of large industries
-legalized prostitution
-reperations for slavery


when it Bernie going to denounce this ridiculous platform?
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* the end of all national borders.

Not going to happen even if he wanted it cause Canada and Mexico won't agree.

* the end of ICE and CBP.

A lot of people want ICE gone, they are a solution looking for a problem and causing more issues than they solve. Customs and Border Patrol aren't going anywhere.

* the destruction of Capitalism.

Is not going to happen even under Bernie. Regulated Capitalism might, but then that is a good idea, not a bad one. Unregulated Capitalism is blight that is highly destructive.

* state ownership of large industries

Nationalization isn't going to occur.

* legalized prostitution

Which is a problem how? We've had legalised Prostitution for 17 years now and the country hasn't exploded into fiery shards of lava.

* reperations for slavery

Which is bad how? Slavery was kinda abhorrent, and the US political systems have been working to continue the oppression of blacks ever since Lincoln announced emancipation. Why is paying reparations for that treatment so bad?
 
Safe-Keeper said:
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I wasn't talking about his policies, I'm talking about the raving paranoia in the OP? Or are you trying to say the paranoia is less irrational this time around?
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Nope <snip>. But I also think Bernie is unelectable.
Medicare For All alone is enough to doom him. SOme form of UHC yes, but not one that will basically take away many people's coverage and replace it with something no one is sure of what it will look like.


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I'm thinking the stock market will crash if Bernie is elected POTUS, and we'll enter a recession immediately, or maybe even a depression.
 
I haven't been all that fond of Bernie in the past, but I find I am really enjoying how his front-runner status is making all the conservatives lose their collective **** at the possibility of him in charge.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
I'm thinking the stock market will crash if Bernie is elected POTUS, and we'll enter a recession immediately, or maybe even a depression.
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Bernie wins the nomination and we could see a quick Bear Market.

Bernie wins the election? Dow could go all the way back to pre-Trump levels.

But Bernie-Bros will say that would be fine since the stock selling corporations didn't share their wealth.
 
PhantomWolf said:
* reperations for slavery

Which is bad how? Slavery was kinda abhorrent, and the US political systems have been working to continue the oppression of blacks ever since Lincoln announced emancipation. Why is paying reparations for that treatment so bad?
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We had a ******* civil war and lost hundreds of thousands of Americans, all over the issue of slavery.

Slavery ended 155 years ago and the idea we should now pay reparations to the great-great-great grandchildren of slaves is absurd and will do NOTHING but stoke racial animosity and tensions.
 
Meanwhile, that raving Socialist Donald J Trump vows to protect Social Security and Medicare and the original poster says nothing!

Both of those were decried as socialism by Trump's part when proposed.

Dumbest thread ever. Just about.
 
OP, you may be in need of the ISF lounge fainting couch if it is not already being used by the “Usurper Trump” guy or the misanthrope of the mountains.
 
Rave on, Herc. Your tiny voice is unheard in the Grand Socialist Hurricane now a-building. Soon, long before any piteous "election," the comrades -- MY comrades, capitalist stooge! -- will march! On Washington, on New York, on Chicago and Los Angeles and Ft. Wayne, on all the rotten bastions the bosses think will save them! Then you will be forced to pay the Comrade Street Sisters for sex! Then the CEOs and CFOs will clean Comrade Bernie's commode! (He likes his burritos, too! Oh, they -- and maybe you -- will learn the true meaning of Share the Wealth!) Wah! Up the red star!

And so on. Buy me a litre of wine and I can keep this up til Morgenschein.
 
Of course, I won’t be laughing when Comrade Bernie opens the salt-mines for anyone who won’t wear Stalin lapel pins.
 
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