2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

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Venom said:
Well, he's the front runner for one.

He must be doing something right.
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He and (to a small extent , Warren) represent the wing of the party that is considered a bit mor "radical". He pretty much dominates that spot.
The "moderate" vote is larger- but distributed amongst more candidates.

That is why Sanders is the front runner right now.

If it were down to Sanders/Klobuchar right now, he would be pulling about 30% of the Dem vote to her %70
 
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Venom said:
Well, he's the front runner for one.

He must be doing something right.
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He's the front runner in New Hampshire and took second in delegates in Iowa. Who cares? He can't get elected with just his progressive base. In the general election he needs to appeal to swing/independent voters. He has not shown the ability to do that.
 
Well, let it run till Super Tuesday. If Sanders survives, then it's for real this time. I think Klobuchar would do better than Hillary did. It would be a close race, but she would do as well as any of them against Trump. She retains some "unknown" status at this point, because people do not read news anymore. Yet they vote!

Klobuchar is seen as tough but not Hillary scale "nasty woman."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...general_election_trump_vs_klobuchar-6803.html
 
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With 10% of precincts reporting:

Sanders: 28.1%
Buttigieg: 22.7%
Klobuchar: 20.1%
Warren: 12.2%
Biden: 8.1%

Obviously no way of knowing if the precincts are reasonably average for the state, so things could change quite a bit, but Klobuchar looks to be having a very good night and Biden a particularly miserable one.
 
Yang supposedly dropping out.

The media coverage so far for NH is hilarious. "Wow, look at Klob in 3rd!" is the main narrative.

It is common for people to make parallels between Sanders and Trump, and highlight media antagonism (in either direction) as one of them, but there is a difference. Trump got free press constantly with "negative" coverage. The mainstream media goes out of its way to not talk about Sanders.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Yang supposedly dropping out.

The media coverage so far for NH is hilarious. "Wow, look at Klob in 3rd!" is the main narrative.

It is common for people to make parallels between Sanders and Trump, and highlight media antagonism (in either direction) as one of them, but there is a difference. Trump got free press constantly with "negative" coverage. The mainstream media goes out of its way to not talk about Sanders.
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What "mainstream media" are you following?
I am going CNN to MSNBC to even FOX ( who are spending the preponderance of their time on Biden, for some reason ) and not getting the same impression.
 
A little while ago I said to my wife, "We've never had a gay president."
Her response: "That we know of."

We've also never had a Jewish president or a female president. Or a gropey, feely, uncle president. That takes care of the top five.
 
Trebuchet said:
A little while ago I said to my wife, "We've never had a gay president."
Her response: "That we know of."

We've also never had a Jewish president or a female president. Or a gropey, feely, uncle president. That takes care of the top five.
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Pretty sure Trump hasn't even been our first gropey feely president.
 
Brainster said:
With 10% of precincts reporting:

Sanders: 28.1%
Buttigieg: 22.7%
Klobuchar: 20.1%
Warren: 12.2%
Biden: 8.1%

Obviously no way of knowing if the precincts are reasonably average for the state, so things could change quite a bit, but Klobuchar looks to be having a very good night and Biden a particularly miserable one.
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I'm disappointed that the far left seems to be settling on Sanders. I think Warren would have been a better bet.

As for the moderates, it seems as it looks like the 3 Bs and Klobuchar with Biden struggling.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
People do like to get excited over things. The only candidate that doesn't have a cult of some degree is Warren, and that's because her admirers bask in the radiance of her divine sagacity, enhancing their ratiocination and preventing distorted thinking for they are the elect, devoted to the Chosen One, and the cosmos sheds its grace upon them.
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I bow before your superb description of me. :) :) :)
 
SezMe said:
You've made this claim before and I asked for evidence. Did you reply?
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Work it out:

Gold-standard, nonpartisan surveys have found for decades that more U.S. adults identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party than the Republican Party – whether these surveys take place under GOP or Democratic presidential administrations. That is the finding of two of the highest-quality surveys that use nationally representative data collected through in-person interviews: the General Social Survey and the American National Election Studies.
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Of course, the important question for pollsters who want to accurately reflect the partisan composition of the country is not “Are there more Democrats than Republicans?” but rather “What is the correct ratio of Democrats to Republicans?” The answer to this question depends, in part, on whether we are talking about the general public, the smaller subset who are registered to vote, or the even smaller group of people who are likely to vote in a given election (“likely voters”). Evidence suggests that the Democratic advantage is somewhat narrower among registered voters than the general public – and often even narrower among likely or actual voters.
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If the Democratic advantage among likely or actual voters is narrower (less) than it is among registered voters, it can only be because Democrats are less likely to vote.
 
Craig4 said:
He's the front runner in New Hampshire and took second in delegates in Iowa. Who cares? He can't get elected with just his progressive base. In the general election he needs to appeal to swing/independent voters. He has not shown the ability to do that.
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Bernie is a lot more pragmatic than his base is.
 
Craig4 said:
Why do people think Bernie is the answer here? We've got a president whom 54 percent of voters think is a complete dick stain. Just run a Medicare if you need it, cheaper college (not free) and change the tax cut to benefit consumers Democrat and you win. Neither Bernie nor Warren have laid the ground work for their ideas. This is no time to be going in with revolutionary proposals. Warren is an idiot of she thinks this is the time for big ideas. Neither she nor Bernie have bothered to set the conditions for a debate between a socialist and a dictator. This is the election for someone who is sane, not planning to blow anything up and an idiot authoritarian nut job. Let's make it an easy choice.
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Krugman made a similar point in an editorial today. He stated it is far easier to get people behind good things that exist (ACA, Medicare, Social Security, etc.) than to buy into new stuff. He advocates Dems push that support in contrast to Trump trying to damage those existing things and leave the new stuff for after they sit in the Oval Office.
 
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