Cont: House Impeachment Inquiry - part 3

[Belz...]

Why would roberts say anything? It's not like he has any real power here.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Pull one of their tricks. Shut and lock the doors and have the vote without them.

 

[Cabbage]

Because here's probably a more appropriate place than the general Trump Presidency thread...

The Senate Republicans didn't even try to follow the set rules, with no consequences from Roberts.

Is there any way they could arrange to have the vote to convict/acquit taken when double digit numbers of Republicans are out in the hallway?

 

[Aridas]

Why would roberts say anything? It's not like he has any real power here.

Mmm. Perhaps I was wrong in thinking that the one presiding over the proceedings would be more than a flower pot.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Why would roberts say anything? It's not like he has any real power here.

Given that he also has to run the Supreme Court, it would be more productive for him to catch some zzz's during the Trial.

 

[carlitos]

Do as I say, not as I do?

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Interesting twitter thread on a newly-filed FOIA request from the NYT re Ukraine documents, in which various claims of privilege are debunked

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1220193490476371968

Highly notable stuff from @MZanona:

Trump ally Rep. GAETZ praised Dems' use of multimedia, which he said gave their trial presentation a "cable news" feel ...

Unlike the Trump team, whose presentation Gaetz said felt like “an 8th grade book report.”

Article embedded in tweet. Notable because Gaetz was a full-on lapdog, but then got on the wrong side of Trump & the rest of the GOP. This could be an indicator that the split will increase from here on in.

 

[Belz...]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1220193490476371968



Article embedded in tweet. Notable because Gaetz was a full-on lapdog, but then got on the wrong side of Trump & the rest of the GOP. This could be an indicator that the split will increase from here on in.

What happened between him and Trump?

 

[plague311]

What happened between him and Trump?

Gaetz voted to limit his powers in the Middle East.

 

[Belz...]

Gaetz voted to limit his powers in the Middle East.

Oops. Someone should have told him that this was a big no-no.

 

[Segnosaur]

Re: Why Congess Critter Gaetz is currently in Trump's doghouse...

Gaetz voted to limit his powers in the Middle East.

Oops. Someone should have told him that this was a big no-no.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/22/matt-gaetz-trump-impeachment-team-102534

Yeah. I guess he thought he was supposed to be on Trump's impeachment defense team. Supposedly it was Trump's legislative Affairs Director Eric Ueland who pushed for him not to be included.

This should serve as a warning to anyone who might want to support Trump: Loyalty is non-existent, and you can be dropped the moment it is politically expedient. Gaetz had been a pretty vocal pro-Trump supporter, and now he's on the outs.

Of course, with Trump's track record of turning his back on allies, Gaetz shouldn't have been surprised.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Of course, with Trump's track record of turning his back on allies, Gaetz shouldn't have been surprised.

And yet Trump still has allies that believe it won't happen to them.

 

[Stacyhs]

I was pretty impressed with Schiff's delivery yesterday. It was repetitive but very clear. He did an outstanding job of using Trump's own words, pressers and statements against him to expose what he was doing. Everything was laid out in an easy to understand way.

I find it hard to think the Dem's didn't have this as their plan all along. Schiff really, REALLY nailed home that the defense can't claim that what the House managers are saying is wrong because the defense is sitting on the evidence. If they want to prove the House wrong they can literally provide evidence any time they want without any issue at all. I thought it was great and really put the defense in a box.

I agree. Schiff did a damn fine job of presenting the evidence. It was clear, organized and well supported. On the other hand, all the Repubs had is their typical rhetoric of "the Dems want to overturn the 2016 election" nonsense. It's pathetic.

 

[alfaniner]

And yet Trump still has allies that believe it won't happen to them.

It reminds me of that account:

First they came for the (oppressed group)
and I didn't say anything
Then they came for the (other oppressed group)
and I didn't say anything
(continue for several iterations)
They they came for me
because there was no one else left.

 

[TragicMonkey]

And yet Trump still has allies that believe it won't happen to them.

Insert "I never thought the leopards would eat MY face" meme here.

It reminds me of the people who marry someone who cheated on their spouse with them, and are then flabbergasted when they themselves are cheated upon.

 

[Horatius]

Of course, with Trump's track record of turning his back on allies, Gaetz shouldn't have been surprised.

Trump's Theme Song:

 

[smartcooky]

I agree. Schiff did a damn fine job of presenting the evidence. It was clear, organized and well supported. On the other hand, all the Repubs had is their typical rhetoric of "the Dems want to overturn the 2016 election" nonsense. It's pathetic.

If you want to see up close examples of what corrupt behaviour in the legislative body of a Banana Republic looks like, look no further than the actions of the Republican Senators for the next few days.

 

[plague311]

If you want to see up close examples of what corrupt behaviour in the legislative body of a Banana Republic looks like, look no further than the actions of the Republican Senators for the next few days.

Lindsey Graham actually gave props to Schiff, it was pretty neat for those two.

 

[pgwenthold]

Not all of the right, or even Republicans, support Trump. It's one reason I try to use the qualifier 'the Trump GOP' when making such observations.

Oh fiddle faddle.

According to the Trumpster, he has a 95% approval record among Republicans, which, he claims, is a record level of support. So saying that Republicans support Trump is apparently more true now than it has ever been for any President in history.

Now, if those non-Trump supporting Republicans have a problem with any of that, then they need stand up and do something about it. If you don't like being lumped in with Trumpets, then take that up with the person who is lumping you in there in the first place, and that is the President.

If the 95% is a lie, then make it known. Don't sit quietly while the President claims you as a supporter and then whine when you get lumped in as a supporter by someone else.