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Bloomberg for President?

JoeMorgue said:
As to Bloomberg specifically it's way too late (which is depressing since in any sane world the 2020 election campaign wouldn't even start for another few months but that's another topic) in this whole donnybroke for someone with no message beyond "Lookit me, I'm not Trump" to throw his hat into the ring.
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Not a single primary vote has been held yet.
 
ChristianProgressive said:
Steyer is better than Bloomberg. A successful businessman and a better progressive.
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Steyer has never held any government job of any kind at any level. As Trump demonstrates daily, the presidency is not an entry-level position. And Steyer's business was running a hedge-fund, which basically means taking a slice off the top of other people's deals, win or lose. Bloomberg invented something new, and built a business that has 20,000 employees.

Advantage: Bloomberg.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
As to Bloomberg specifically it's way too late
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Not a single primary vote has been held yet.
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True, he isn't mathematically eliminated. The question is can he pick up enough support to overcome the current front runners.

According to Real Clear Politics, most polls currently put him around 5th place (behind Buttigieg). He has increased is popularity since the start of the race (current average is around 9%, while the polls back in November/December had him at 2-3%) but he still has a long way to go to catch Biden/Sanders/Warren.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
 
Segnosaur said:
True, he isn't mathematically eliminated. The question is can he pick up enough support to overcome the current front runners.

According to Real Clear Politics, most polls currently put him around 5th place (behind Buttigieg). He has increased is popularity since the start of the race (current average is around 9%, while the polls back in November/December had him at 2-3%) but he still has a long way to go to catch Biden/Sanders/Warren.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
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One difference is that in most elections, candidates start dropping out if they don't come in at least second or third in the early primaries. Bloomberg can go to the end, picking up some votes in every primary. He still might not win, but even holding a bundle of delegates gives him power at the convention.
 
Bob001 said:
Steyer has never held any government job of any kind at any level. As Trump demonstrates daily, the presidency is not an entry-level position. And Steyer's business was running a hedge-fund, which basically means taking a slice off the top of other people's deals, win or lose. Bloomberg invented something new, and built a business that has 20,000 employees.

Advantage: Bloomberg.
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Steyer's platform is to get corporate influence out of government.

Advantage: Steyer.
 
Bob001 said:
Steyer has never held any government job of any kind at any level. As Trump demonstrates daily, the presidency is not an entry-level position. And Steyer's business was running a hedge-fund, which basically means taking a slice off the top of other people's deals, win or lose. Bloomberg invented something new, and built a business that has 20,000 employees.

Advantage: Bloomberg.
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Steyer QUIT that hedge fund and started several companies that became involved in small banking and green energy successfully.
 
Bob001 said:
One difference is that in most elections, candidates start dropping out if they don't come in at least second or third in the early primaries. Bloomberg can go to the end, picking up some votes in every primary. He still might not win, but even holding a bundle of delegates gives him power at the convention.
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A bundle of delegates, a huge campaign organization, and hundreds of millions of dollars. This could be as close to a "smoke-filled room" as we have seen in many years.
 
carlitos said:
A bundle of delegates, a huge campaign organization, and hundreds of millions of dollars. This could be as close to a "smoke-filled room" as we have seen in many years.
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And compared to what we've experienced in recent years, would that be a bad thing?
 
ChristianProgressive said:
Steyer QUIT that hedge fund and started several companies that became involved in small banking and green energy successfully.
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He's been a big donor to Democratic causes. But he's never held public office, and he never ran anything but his hedge fund.

And that doesn't necessarily make him look great.
Attacks by Steyer’s opponents have been mild so far, but that will change if he starts gaining support.

“He will have to answer for his involvement in anti-climate-control activities, his relationship to the coal industry, and his relationship to Wall Street, which young people particularly find abhorrent,” said Democratic ad maker Hank Sheinkopf, who is unaligned in the presidential race.
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https://www.latimes.com/politics/la...er-hedge-fund-billionaire-20190711-story.html
 
Good evening. If Bloomberg wants to help ensure that President Trump, and dare I say several Republicans from the House and Senate, don't get re-elected , he should simply announce that he is opening investigations into the Presidents shady business deals. Bloomberg should offer large cash amounts for transcripts of any and all phone calls that Trump has had with the heads of other governments. He should offer a bounty for any hackers, be them private or foreign governments, to make Donald Trumps tax returns public. As well as any information on any cases of Trump personally benefiting monetarily using his Presidential powers.
Then let's watch the fun. How will Senators react to that since it seems that the Republicans now seem to have switched from "Trump didn't do it" to "So what? It's not impeachable."
 
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JPK said:
Good evening. If Bloomberg wants to help ensure that President Trump, and dare I say several Republicans from the House and Senate, don't get re-elected , he should simply announce that he is opening investigations into the Presidents shady business deals. Bloomberg should offer large cash amounts for transcripts of any and all phone calls that Trump has had with the heads of other governments. He should offer a bounty for any hackers, be them private or foreign governments, to make Donald Trumps tax returns public. As well as any information on any cases of Trump personally benefiting monetarily using his Presidential powers.
Then let's watch the fun. How will Senators react to that since it seems that the Republicans now seem to have switched from "Trump didn't do it" to "So what? It's not impeachable."
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Some of what you're describing, like releasing tax returns and accessing presidential records, would be federal crimes, and encouraging people to commit crimes is a crime, too. I doubt Bloomberg would come anywhere close to that.

What he might get away with is offering a reward for outtakes or recordings of "Apprentice" where Trump makes offensive remarks. Their existence has been rumored for years, but they've never actually turned up.
 
Good morning Bob001
Bob001 said:
Some of what you're describing, like releasing tax returns and accessing presidential records, would be federal crimes, and encouraging people to commit crimes is a crime, too. I doubt Bloomberg would come anywhere close to that.

What he might get away with is offering a reward for outtakes or recordings of "Apprentice" where Trump makes offensive remarks. Their existence has been rumored for years, but they've never actually turned up.
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I doubt that our federal laws prevent any other World leader from releasing their recordings of phone calls they had with our President. Not our transcripts of recordings but theirs. That is a concern. When the transcripts of the calls President Trump had with the Mexican President and the PM of Australia came out, it showed President Trump not being quite so "perfect" How much leverage do those other countries have over Trump by threatening to release those transcripts unless Trump agrees " to do us a favor though... "? Putin, Kim, and the Saudi Prince have some doozies. The Ukrainian President, and many around him, have recordings with President Trump and no doubt , Pence, Giuliani, and others. Someone might be interested to see them. Maybe not the GOP.
Also, there would be nothing preventing other governments from " announcing" investigation into corrupt business practices by Donald Trump. Before and after he became President.

As far as the tax returns go, nothing more needs to be said than "(insert country here), if you're listening if you can find the missing tax returns, and they happen to get posted somwhere online , I'm sure you will be greatly rewarded. "
Of course none of this would happen but even if Bloomberg just asked the question "What if I was to.. ." and then suggest doing these things, it would no doubt get the attention of the GOP. Bloomberg actually has the money to pay for that kind of investigation . It would certainly rattle President Trump.
Actually this would work better if Bloomberg was running as an Independent. The Democrats can argue that this is what they are trying to prevent and the GOP would have to take a side as well.
 
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