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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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The Democrat Party in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia are working hard to take away your 2nd Amendment rights. This is just the beginning. Don’t let it happen, VOTE REPUBLICAN in 2020!

They didn’t want John Bolton and others in the House. They were in too much of a rush. Now they want them all in the Senate. Not supposed to be that way!

Cryin’ Chuck Schumer is now asking for “fairness”, when he and the Democrat House members worked together to make sure I got ZERO fairness in the House. So, what else is new?

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Matthew Best said:
I don't suppose anyone will be surprised by this, but Donald Trump thinks the Constitution is "like a foreign language", can't read it without stumbling and blames everyone else for his inability to do so.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...ter-with-the-constitution-very-stable-genius?

But the president stumbled, trying to get out the words in the arcane, stilted form the founding fathers had written. Trump grew irritated. “It’s very hard to do because of the language here,” Trump told the crew. “It’s very hard to get through that whole thing without a stumble.” He added, “It’s like a different language, right?” The cameraman tried to calm Trump, telling him it was no big deal, to take a moment and start over. Trump tried again, but again remarked, “It’s like a foreign language.”
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I would so hope that all those gaffes are included in the documentary.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don't suppose anyone will be surprised by this, but Donald Trump thinks the Constitution is "like a foreign language", can't read it without stumbling and blames everyone else for his inability to do so.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...ter-with-the-constitution-very-stable-genius?
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Here's the thing...

If it were any other politician or president, they might have a point (sort of)... languages do evolve over the years, and the constitution is written in a way that varies from what people would expect in contemporary speech. Heck, just look at the misunderstanding about the term "high crimes" when referring to impeachment. And, as expected, it is a complex document. If (for example) Obama or Bush made a comment about "the constitution is a wonderful document but I am unused to the language patterns" I wouldn't have criticized them for it.

But Trump has made a big deal of how smart he is. When you spend so much time and effort bragging about just how smart you are, then an inability to understand something like the constitution suggests your claims about intelligence are overstated.
 
Belz... said:
I don't think you understood my meaning.

"People who X are more at risk of Y" is a general statistic. It doesn't mean that one person who X's is more at risk of Y. For example, people tend to drive pretty badly, and end up in accidents of their own making. There are statistics for that. But you can't tell whether one person owning a car will get into an accident of his or her own making. That was my point. I'm not sure I'm explaining that clearly.
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This is off topic, especially gun arguments, but I can't let this fallacy/misstatement slide.

Antivaxxers make this same naive argument that somehow unique individuals are not represented in the stats. Yes, they are.

I don't need a helmut on my motorcycle or my seatbelt in a car because I'm a careful driver. Those unsupportable arguments are still made.


Not all statistics are equally generalizable and they are not always appropriately applied. But a blanket, 'it can't happen to me' argument is ********. You can (in another thread) look at specific studies and see if your demographic was included and if the sample sizes were large enough. But just a general, those statistics don't apply to me, is more often than not, denial.
 
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Delphic Oracle said:
Ah, and "they" all do this chanting?
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Sure they do.:rolleyes:

Were I the despot of Iran, I would be making it my priority to exploit the division in NATO foisted by a crank president of the US.

Make hay while the sun shines and so forth.

Can they do that? I don't know. Idealogy gets in the way. If the Iranians took a moments thought, they would realise that their future is with Europe and the US is becoming increasingly irrelevant thanks in large part to the orange menace.

Will they seize that opportunity? I don't know that either, but they should.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don't suppose anyone will be surprised by this, but Donald Trump thinks the Constitution is "like a foreign language", can't read it without stumbling and blames everyone else for his inability to do so.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...ter-with-the-constitution-very-stable-genius?

But the president stumbled, trying to get out the words in the arcane, stilted form the founding fathers had written. Trump grew irritated. “It’s very hard to do because of the language here,” Trump told the crew. “It’s very hard to get through that whole thing without a stumble.” He added, “It’s like a different language, right?” The cameraman tried to calm Trump, telling him it was no big deal, to take a moment and start over. Trump tried again, but again remarked, “It’s like a foreign language.”
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My speculation: He can't read. It was more prevalent then. Now he rehearses a little more what he's supposed to read so he can appear like he's reading it. It's why he goes off-script so often. It's his go-to when he can't read the teleprompter.


I thought this was typical:
Trump had selected the opening of Article II, the part of the Constitution that addresses a president’s election and the scope of his or her power.
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As was acting like a baby and blaming everyone else for his mistakes.
 
abaddon said:
Sure they do.:rolleyes:

Were I the despot of Iran, I would be making it my priority to exploit the division in NATO foisted by a crank president of the US.

Make hay while the sun shines and so forth.

Can they do that? I don't know. Idealogy gets in the way. If the Iranians took a moments thought, they would realise that their future is with Europe and the US is becoming increasingly irrelevant thanks in large part to the orange menace.

Will they seize that opportunity? I don't know that either, but they should.
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China and Russia are at risk of taking advantage of Trump's incompetence.

If Hong Kong citizens weren't causing so much trouble, I half expect China to pick this time to invade Taiwan. They are making noise about it.
 
acbytesla said:
Really? I think that stat says a lot to the individual thinking about getting a gun for their safety. More likely than anything, that gun will be used for suicide or killing someone you know than defending yourself against a stranger.
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Yes but you're losing sight of the fact that probability is not actuality. There are no dice rolled here. The results are deterministic. That driving a car entails a chance of death in the general population because of bad driving doesn't mean you'll be a bad driver yourself, for instance.

Anyway, maybe this should be another thread.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
This is off topic, especially gun arguments, but I can't let this fallacy/misstatement slide.

Antivaxxers make this same naive argument that somehow unique individuals are not represented in the stats. Yes, they are.

I don't need a helmut on my motorcycle or my seatbelt in a car because I'm a careful driver. Those unsupportable arguments are still made.


Not all statistics are equally generalizable and they are not always appropriately applied. But a blanket, 'it can't happen to me' argument is ********. You can (in another thread) look at specific studies and see if your demographic was included and if the sample sizes were large enough. But just a general, those statistics don't apply to me, is more often than not, denial.
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As usual you've managed to completely misunderstand the argument. Nicely done.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don't suppose anyone will be surprised by this, but Donald Trump thinks the Constitution is "like a foreign language", can't read it without stumbling and blames everyone else for his inability to do so.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...ter-with-the-constitution-very-stable-genius?

But the president stumbled, trying to get out the words in the arcane, stilted form the founding fathers had written. Trump grew irritated. “It’s very hard to do because of the language here,” Trump told the crew. “It’s very hard to get through that whole thing without a stumble.” He added, “It’s like a different language, right?” The cameraman tried to calm Trump, telling him it was no big deal, to take a moment and start over. Trump tried again, but again remarked, “It’s like a foreign language.”
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Because it has no pictures and isn't written in ******* Wiseguy.
 
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Two stone cold losers from Amazon WP. Almost every story is a made up lie, just like corrupt pol Shifty Schiff, who fraudulently made up my call with Ukraine. Fiction!
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Another Fake Book by two third rate Washington Post reporters, has already proven to be inaccurately reported, to their great embarrassment, all for the purpose of demeaning and belittling a President who is getting great things done for our Country, at a record clip. Thank you!
 
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