Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

[Safe-Keeper]

That sound you just heard was all the trumpkins who claimed to be terrified of "Killary" taking any kind of military action in the Middle East doing a frantic scramble to justify Trump taking action in the Middle East. That 180° about face is going to be tough to pull off.

 

[Stacyhs]

That sound you just heard was all the trumpkins who claimed to be terrified of "Killary" taking any kind of military action in the Middle East doing a frantic scramble to justify Trump taking action in the Middle East. That 180° about face is going to be tough to pull off.

Nah. They can spin and justify just about anything.

 

[Ladewig]

That sound you just heard was all the trumpkins who claimed to be terrified of "Killary" taking any kind of military action in the Middle East doing a frantic scramble to justify Trump taking action in the Middle East. That 180° about face is going to be tough to pull off.

Why is that going to be tough to pull off?

The last 3 years have been “ignore what I said yesterday; pay attention only to what I’m saying right now!

ETA
These are the guys who unashamedly said, “of course we would approve a SCOTUS nominee in the last few months of POTUS’s term.”

 

[alfaniner]

The PDJT has no idea what he's just done.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Nah. They can spin and justify just about anything.

ftfy

 

[Steve]

The PDJT has no idea what he's just done.

And how is that different from all the other things he has done?

 

[Davidlpf]

Don't know how different but this could be bad, very bad. The Iranian is no match for the US military but others could join in. But just having a US president who goes around killing officials of other countries is bad a trend to start.

 

[alfaniner]

And how is that different from all the other things he has done?

It's got people in other countries pissed off.

Powerful people. Dangerous people.

 

[Davidlpf]

Well I am Canadian and I am not happy with this, we probably wont fight in anything that comes out of this but we might be targeted by some people. Trump is just an idiot, he never learned the rule, "Don't poke the bear."

 

[Aridas]

Trump Tweets

Sohrab Ahmari, New York Post “The Trump Campaign raised $10 million in the two days following the impeachment (Scam) vote. It seems the Democrats have shot themselves in the foot in one more way. They set up a process they know is not going to lead to the Presidents removal, &...

....it’s alienating independents. This President is being persecuted over three years with one investigation after another, and that really plays to his base.” @FoxNews @cvpayne
Their partisan Witch Hunt is hurting our Country do badly, & only bringing more division than ever!

At last check, Democratic Party candidate fundraising is overwhelmingly higher, just divided. Bernie, alone, got about 3/4th's of Trump's haul.

That sound you just heard was all the trumpkins who claimed to be terrified of "Killary" taking any kind of military action in the Middle East doing a frantic scramble to justify Trump taking action in the Middle East. That 180° about face is going to be tough to pull off.

Meh. My reaction is simply **** Trump. Trump's almost certainly doing this to provoke backlash, with the expectation that Americans will rally behind him if there's actually a war. That, and as a distraction. Maybe also as an excuse to invoke emergency powers.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The PDJT has no idea what he's just done.

When this sort of thing happened to Clinton the GOP went nuts whining about wagging the dog. It hampered Clinton who was in the process of going after Bin Laden.

Is Trump wagging the dog? Let's ask. When was the last American death in Iraq?

Turns out ~20 soldiers a year have died in Iraq under Trump's watch.

This statistic shows the number of U.S. soldier fatalities in the Iraq War

So was there something different this time like an insurgent attack?

Nope. Current Travel advisory, Iraq

Do not travel to Iraq due to terrorism, kidnapping, and armed conflict.

U.S. citizens in Iraq are at high risk for violence and kidnapping. Numerous terrorist and insurgent groups are active in Iraq and regularly attack both Iraqi security forces and civilians. Anti-U.S. sectarian militias may also threaten U.S. citizens and Western companies throughout Iraq. Attacks by improvised explosive devices (IEDs) occur in many areas of the country, including Baghdad.

So why did Trump feel the need to bomb a few insurgents now after a single American contractor death?


Then there is the pissing off the locals by ignoring their deaths which while not necessarily part of the wagging the dog, this certainly heats up the tinder box. The Intercept (look at the data, not just the politics): Civilian Deaths in U.S. Wars Are Skyrocketing Under Trump.

LA Times: Column: Trump’s brand of war is killing more civilians than before

 

[Ziggurat]

Trump is just an idiot, he never learned the rule, "Don't poke the bear."

Or perhaps Trump is the bear, and he got poked.

 

[Davidlpf]

There is also the fact Russia and China are allies to Iran.

If this turns out to be just a political ploy to get out of impeachment, or to get leader for life and make his family a dynasty I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Ziggurat]

If this turns out to be just a political ploy to get out of impeachment,

It's possible that was part of the calculus, but it's unlikely to be the only reason.

or to get leader for life and make his family a dynasty I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah, no. Not a chance in hell. It's obvious that can't work, and Trump isn't actually stupid.

 

[Davidlpf]

Yeah, no. Not a chance in hell. It's obvious that can't work, and Trump isn't actually stupid.

Haven't seen any evidence to counter act that he isn't stupid.

 

[Steve]

It's possible that was part of the calculus, but it's unlikely to be the only reason.



Yeah, no. Not a chance in hell. It's obvious that can't work, and Trump isn't actually stupid.

Whoa there! Only his supporters with a lower IQ than him think that. His smarter supporters just find him to be a politically useful idiot.

 

[Davidlpf]

Like Palin, she was only brought to get certain votes.

 

[Ziggurat]

Haven't seen any evidence to counter act that he isn't stupid.

Then you aren't paying attention.

Whoa there! Only his supporters with a lower IQ than him think that. His smarter supporters just find him to be a politically useful idiot.

When a successful person does something that looks stupid to you, you should consider the possibility that you don't understand what it is that they're doing.

Like Palin, she was only brought to get certain votes.

Trump wasn't brought. He barged his way in, when none of the party establishment wanted him. He beat out a crowd of Republican contenders, and then defeated Hillary when nobody thought he could.

Democratic strategists might call him stupid, but if they actually believe that, they'll lose to him again.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Then you aren't paying attention.



When a successful person does something that looks stupid to you, you should consider the possibility that you don't understand what it is that they're doing.



Trump wasn't brought. He barged his way in, when none of the party establishment wanted him. He beat out a crowd of Republican contenders, and then defeated Hillary when nobody thought he could.

Democratic strategists might call him stupid, but if they actually believe that, they'll lose to him again.

*sigh* no he didn’t win it on his own. Stop trying to tell us how smart Trump is when clearly he isn’t. He cheated royally and had Putin’s help. Like he always has for years. On his own, he would never have been a candidate. He crashed casinos...how smart can THAT be?

 

[Ziggurat]

*sigh* no he didn’t win it on his own.

I didn't say he won it on his own. No one does. But he wasn't picked by the establishment. He isn't anyone's puppet, and certainly not Putin's. This is conspiratorial nonsense.