Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

[catsmate]

Sorry to put the kybosh your cleverness but I did mean cossack hats.

They are not "Cossack hats".

 

[catsmate]

But three bones in his neck were fractured, were they not?

Actually, no. We've discussed this.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Why the blazes would he want to travel to a Saudi country at pain of death by beheading if caught with a fake passport and taking the virginity of nice Saudi young ladies?

You really think the rules for the rich and powerful are any different in Saudi Arabia than anywhere else? You really think all those unmarried Saudi princes are teetotaling virgins?

 

[Vixen]

Oh good grief.... You know nothing about Arab-Israeli relations, do you?

Epstein was not Israeli, and in any case, why would he be schlepping around the Middle East and countries in Europe (including the UK) on a false passport.

Next you'll be telling me he was in danger of being attacked by the Queen's corgis so he had to pretend he was a schnitzel-eating Austrian and keep them happy with tidbits from the wurstladen whilst in England.

 

[Vixen]

You really think the rules for the rich and powerful are any different in Saudi Arabia than anywhere else? You really think all those unmarried Saudi princes are teetotaling virgins?

Oh please. As if an Austrian guy (Hitler's nationality) is going to be some kind of benign schmuck, as opposed to a US schnorrer.

 

[BStrong]

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Common sense should tell you all you need to know.

Absent evidence and experience in the subject matter, "common sense" doesn't have anything to do with it.

Your "common sense" and whatever confirmation bias you have has led you to believe JE = satanic, international conspiracy etc. etc. when the evidence and circumstances indicates "rich ******* pedo acts like a rich ******* pedo."

You can fantasize to your heart's content about this issue but your fantasies have no weight of evidence.

 

[kali1137]

No one is denying Epstein as a sick criminal. Have any evidence of sick Satanic criminal activity besides your own person opinions and a few youtube "experts"??

 

[Agatha]

No one is denying Epstein as a sick criminal. Have any evidence of sick Satanic criminal activity besides your own person opinions and a few youtube "experts"??

Lionel Hutz: Well, Your Honor. We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence...

 

[Vixen]

Bearing in mind there has been no trial, the commonly accepted facts are as follows:

• Epstein started off as a mediocre maths teacher and fired.
• He has no finance qualifications such as a CPA or MBA.
• He is not a qualified financial advisor or registered stockbroker or hedge fund manager.
• His only known 'client' is Les Wexner.
• Wexner runs Victoria's Secrets lingerie empire using young teenage girls to model the range at 'shows'.
• Some auditions for these 'lingerie fashion' shows took place at Epstein's NY mansion.
• This mansion once belonged to Wexner who gave Epstein Powerof Attorney to transfer it to his name, together with the island and other locations.
• Epstein bought Little St James for a few million bucks with Wexner's money.
• Epstein's one-time girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of Robert Maxwell whom many believe was a Mossad agent.
• The owner of Seagram distillers has a ranch within six miles of Epstein's in New Mexico; no-one else is around for many miles.
• Seagram's daughter, and multi-billionaire heiress, Sara Bronfman is a leading member of satanic cult LXIVM.
• LXIVM placed young girls in a school for excellence in Mexico and later procured them to work as sex slaves in NY for Keith Raniere, founder of LXIVM.
• The inner circle of LXIVM is based on latinised mottos and rituals involving masters and servants, with young women branded with Raniere's initials, or his high priestess' Allison Mack who also branded girls with her initials, as being owned by the cult.
• Listed in Epstein's 'black book' is not only Prince Andrew but also *Prince Charles*.
• Prince Charles was a close friend of paedophile procurer Jimmy Savile, who called himself the *eminence grise', who abused over 300 young girls and boys but was never investigated, either.
• Prince Andrew met Ghislaine Maxwell at Oxford but may also have known Epstein via Prince Charles.
• Prince Andrew ran a yacht club called Golden Naples Ltd (iirc) which he registered under a false name.
• Prince Andrew is pictured lying on a yacht surrounded by young women in skimpy swimwear, some topless.
• Meghan Markle is rumoured to have been a 'yacht girl' and it may have been Prince Andrew who set her up with Prince Harry [it is claimed].
• Meghan knows secrets about Prince Charles and Prince Andrew which is why she has a hold over the Royal Family [is the grapevine]
• Epstein was fabulously rich, far richer than his association with Wexner would suggest.
• The FBI found documents in his safe including a fake Austrian passport with his photo, different name and a Saudi Arabian address.
• The passport is dated in the 1980's and investigators believe he travelled to various European countries using it, including the UK.
• The association with Maxwell and his incongruously enormous wealth (net worth at death: $550m), together with Austrian passport indicates he worked as an intelligence agent.
• The issue of the hundreds of young teenage girls he procured for parties for his middle-aged male high powered 'movers and shakers' friends suggests a blackmailing racket as they were likely filmed in compromising positions with the girls.
• Epstein aimed to impregnate fifty girls at a time and with leading scientists. Accusers have come forward claiming orgies.
• Not only did Epstein and Maxwell procure underage girls as well as young adults, they appear to have run a baby making racket (cf Virginia Guiffre).
• Nobody knows what has happened to all these young girls, many of whom were runaways and from trailer parks.
• One night in his prison cell, Epstein died from neck injuries compatible with a ligature around his throat.
• Epstein was in a single cell, when he usually had a companion. The CCTV cameras to his cell door were dead that night, the guards were low-level incompetents who didn't bother with surveillance.

Conclusion: procuring young females for the sexual gratification of married men who are - or were - world leaders, a prime minister, a future POTUS, a former POTUS, a Prince (as alleged by Virginia Guiffre) and top scientists at parties in extremely remote locations in what has been described as underground chambers, with weird themes such as Zorro and Ancient Egypt is what would popularly be described as 'satanic'.

The aim? I would suggest a foreign country interfering in Western values by introducing decadence and depraved behaviour as the norm, thus aiming to bring down civilisation as we know it and introducing an 'anything goes' ethos, based on sex slavery, sex with underage teenagers, sex trafficking, prostitution, eugenics and money laundering. All the things the law enforcement agencies are supposed to be clamping down on.

Epstein may have been taken out by a counter-espionage agent (the CIA...?) terrified that what comes out at his trial could bring down the British Royal Family, the US POTUS, members of Congress and top attorneys, not to mention all kinds of Nobel prize-winning scientists.

 

[carlitos]

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[BStrong]

Bearing in mind there has been no trial, the commonly accepted facts are as follows:
speculation, innuendo and flights of fancy snipped

By whom?

 

[Axxman300]

The aim? I would suggest a foreign country interfering in Western values by introducing decadence and depraved behaviour as the norm, thus aiming to bring down civilisation as we know it and introducing an 'anything goes' ethos, based on sex slavery, sex with underage teenagers, sex trafficking, prostitution, eugenics and money laundering. All the things the law enforcement agencies are supposed to be clamping down on.

I would suggest that Jeffrey Epstein was the embodiment of "Western Values". He got obscenely rich while not working very hard, lived large and in charge, and made a point to see how much he could get away with before he got caught. If it wasn't for him raping 14 to 16-year old girls he'd be the kind a guy we put on our money.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I would suggest that Jeffrey Epstein was the embodiment of "Western Values". He got obscenely rich while not working very hard, lived large and in charge, and made a point to see how much he could get away with before he got caught. If it wasn't for him raping 14 to 16-year old girls he'd be the kind a guy we put on our money.

Who did he think he was? Caligula(qv)?

 

[Axxman300]

Who did he think he was? Caligula(qv)?

Everyone needs a role model.

 

[abaddon]

Bearing in mind there has been no trial, the commonly accepted facts are as follows:

Accepted by? You?

[*]Epstein started off as a mediocre maths teacher and fired.
[*]He has no finance qualifications such as a CPA or MBA.
[*]He is not a qualified financial advisor or registered stockbroker or hedge fund manager.

None of which makes any difference whatsoever to anything.

[*]His only known 'client' is Les Wexner.

False.

[*]Wexner runs Victoria's Secrets lingerie empire using young teenage girls to model the range at 'shows'.

Just like every other fashion house. So what?

[*]Some auditions for these 'lingerie fashion' shows took place at Epstein's NY mansion.

So what?

[*]This mansion once belonged to Wexner who gave Epstein Powerof Attorney to transfer it to his name, together with the island and other locations.
[*]Epstein bought Little St James for a few million bucks with Wexner's money.

So Wexner transferrd the island to Epstein, but Epstein also bought it?

[*]Epstein's one-time girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of Robert Maxwell whom many believe was a Mossad agent.

Do "they" have evidence?

[*]The owner of Seagram distillers has a ranch within six miles of Epstein's in New Mexico; no-one else is around for many miles.

So what?

[*]Seagram's daughter, and multi-billionaire heiress, Sara Bronfman is a leading member of satanic cult LXIVM.
[*]LXIVM placed young girls in a school for excellence in Mexico and later procured them to work as sex slaves in NY for Keith Raniere, founder of LXIVM.
[*]The inner circle of LXIVM is based on latinised mottos and rituals involving masters and servants, with young women branded with Raniere's initials, or his high priestess' Allison Mack who also branded girls with her initials, as being owned by the cult.

No such thing as LXIVM. You perhaps refer to NXIVM. A nasty outfit, to be sure, but not remotely satanic.

[*]Listed in Epstein's 'black book' is not only Prince Andrew but also *Prince Charles*.

If true, so what?

[*]Prince Charles was a close friend of paedophile procurer Jimmy Savile, who called himself the *eminence grise', who abused over 300 young girls and boys but was never investigated, either.

What of it? Do you somehow think that no criminal ever gets away with their crimes? What planet does that happen on?

[*]Prince Andrew met Ghislaine Maxwell at Oxford but may also have known Epstein via Prince Charles.

Irrelevant.

[*]Prince Andrew ran a yacht club called Golden Naples Ltd (iirc) which he registered under a false name.

False. He did use a pseudonym in connection with some SA businesses.

[*]Prince Andrew is pictured lying on a yacht surrounded by young women in skimpy swimwear, some topless.

What is wrong with going topless?

[*]Meghan Markle is rumoured to have been a 'yacht girl' and it may have been Prince Andrew who set her up with Prince Harry [it is claimed].

Rumours and unevidenced claims are useless.

[*]Meghan knows secrets about Prince Charles and Prince Andrew which is why she has a hold over the Royal Family [is the grapevine]

So is the grapevine.

[*]Epstein was fabulously rich, far richer than his association with Wexner would suggest.

Not his only client.

[*]The FBI found documents in his safe including a fake Austrian passport with his photo, different name and a Saudi Arabian address.
[*]The passport is dated in the 1980's and investigators believe he travelled to various European countries using it, including the UK.

No fringe reset for you.

[*]The association with Maxwell and his incongruously enormous wealth (net worth at death: $550m), together with Austrian passport indicates he worked as an intelligence agent.

On planet sausage perhaps.

[*]The issue of the hundreds of young teenage girls he procured for parties for his middle-aged male high powered 'movers and shakers' friends suggests a blackmailing racket as they were likely filmed in compromising positions with the girls.

Maybe. Or an insurance policy. Prove it.

[*]Epstein aimed to impregnate fifty girls at a time and with leading scientists. Accusers have come forward claiming orgies.

Name the scientists. Orgies are not particularly uncommon.

[*]Not only did Epstein and Maxwell procure underage girls as well as young adults, they appear to have run a baby making racket (cf Virginia Guiffre).

Doubtful.

[*]Nobody knows what has happened to all these young girls, many of whom were runaways and from trailer parks.

But you do?

[*]One night in his prison cell, Epstein died from neck injuries compatible with a ligature around his throat.

Because he hung himself.

[*]Epstein was in a single cell, when he usually had a companion.

Isolation is common practice for such offenders.

The CCTV cameras to his cell door were dead that night, the guards were low-level incompetents who didn't bother with surveillance.

Still no fringe reset for you.

Conclusion: All you have is innuendo, hearsay, rumour, grapevine and speculation.

In common parlance...bugger all.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Oh please. As if an Austrian guy (Hitler's nationality) is going to be some kind of benign schmuck, as opposed to a US schnorrer.

I'm sorry, did you accidentally reply to the wrong post?

 

[Thermal]

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Wishful thinking.

Say, is that page 20 I see coming, without the first quivering larvae of evidence submitted to answer the OP question? Correction: I believe we have an artwork crucifix hanging on a wall. And something about chess.

 

[BStrong]

I'm sorry, did you accidentally reply to the wrong post?

Hitler wore socks...JE WORE SOCKS! can't you understand?

 

[Trebuchet]

Wishful thinking.

Say, is that page 20 I see coming, without the first quivering larvae of evidence submitted to answer the OP question? Correction: I believe we have an artwork crucifix hanging on a wall. And something about chess.

The first couple of pages were kind of fun, but it's been pretty boring since.

ETA: I'm going to have to remember "first quivering larvae of evidence"!

 

[Vixen]

What did I tell you?

An explosive new report has asserted that deceased sex criminal Jeffery Epstein and his alleged 'madame' Ghislaine Maxwell were foreign intelligence 'assets', and that she is currently hiding in a safehouse in Israel.

'Ghislaine is protected. She and Jeffrey were assets of sorts for multiple foreign governments. They would trade information about the powerful people caught in his net — caught at Epstein's house,' a unnamed source told Page Six.

<snip>

Born in France, Maxwell is both a U.S. citizen and British subject. Her family's alleged ties to Israel's national intelligence service, Mossad, have been well documented.

Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was a Czech-born British media mogul whose financial fraud in raiding the Mirror Group pension fund was discovered after his death in 1991.

Also a British member of parliament, Robert Maxwell reportedly had ties to British intelligence, the Soviet KGB, and Mossad — and was suspected of being a double or even triple agent by British Foreign Office officials.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ell-reportedly-foreign-spy-hiding-Israel.html