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Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

Vixen said:
Not Cosmic Yak said:
Not quite.
Epstein, we are being told, was apparently a Jewish atheist Satanist who worshipped invoked Egyptian and Canaanite gods for the entertainment of the people he procured young teenagers for.

Do try to keep up.
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At some point, you really are going to have to produce some evidence for these claims.
In the meantime, please don't change my posts to repeat your own wild and unsupported speculations.
I notice, though that you appear to have no issue with the idea that someone can be a Jewish atheist Satanist who invoked gods from another pantheon. Do your favoured meanings of 'Jewish' and 'atheist' come from the same Bumper Book of Made-Up Stuff that you've been using for your definition of Satanist, or is there another explanation for your wilful and repeated misuse of these terms?
 
Vixen said:
It is a known established sociological phenomenon that paedophiles/sexual predators will often put themselves into a position whereby they can gain maximum contact with the objects of their desire. What more perfect camouflage than becoming an avuncular priest, child care worker, social worker for young adults...?

The Catholic priests who abused young boys were/are hardly sincere Christians as the New Testament doesn't like that type of thing. ;)
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Ah, I was holding my breath until we got the "no true..." argument. Thanks. I almost turned blue.
 
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Vixen said:
Running a 'satanist'* ring is not necessarily the same as believing in it.

*NB: 'satanist' as per the tabloid-reading public's perception of the word.
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But you still need to provide some of those evidence-y thingys.

You keep repeating SATANISM, but your evidence seems limited to theoretical submarine networks, landscape contracting, and a painted plywood box building.

I think your projections and innuendos have a long evidentiary way to go.
 
This thread really going 16 pages?

Really, I mean people have tacked the "satanic" label on to almost anything taboo these days.

Why couldn't he just be a modern day harem keeper like old rich corrupt monarchs, sultans, emperors etc. in history? Epstein was basically that.

As far as maps and imagery, you're seeing things.
 
Venom said:
This thread really going 16 pages?

Really, I mean people have tacked the "satanic" label on to almost anything taboo these days.

Why couldn't he just be a modern day harem keeper like old rich corrupt monarchs, sultans, emperors etc. in history? Epstein was basically that.

As far as maps and imagery, you're seeing things.
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When the OP resorts to the JAQ gambit and has no actual evidence to cite it's usually the case.

Care to answer my question about Crossroads Blues? As in where RJ states he sold his soul for musical talent?

Here's the lyrics:

I went to the crossroad, fell down on my knees
I went to the crossroad, fell down on my knees
Asked the Lord above "Have mercy, now save poor Bob, if you please"

Yeoo, standin' at the crossroad, tried to flag a ride
Ooo eeee, I tried to flag a ride
Didn't nobody seem to know me, babe, everybody pass me by

Standin' at the crossroad, baby, risin' sun goin' down
Standin' at the crossroad, baby, eee, eee, risin' sun goin' down
I believe to my soul, now, poor Bob is sinkin' down

You can run, you can run, tell my friend Willie Brown
You can run, you can run, tell my friend Willie Brown
That I got the crossroad blues this mornin', Lord, babe, I'm sinkin' down

And I went to the crossroad, mama, I looked east and west
I went to the crossroad, baby, I looked east and west
Lord, I didn't have no sweet woman, ooh well, babe, in my distress
 
Vixen said:
Amoral
Highly promiscuous
No conscience
No remorse
Sought instant gratification
Manipulative - others are just there to be used
Topped himself with a sheet

I wouldn't be surprised if he was top end Hare's Diagnostics.
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That gets us to psychopath, how did you make the jump to this indicating he was "likely a hardened atheist"?

I just wonder if there's more to this than the presumption that anyone expecting divine vengeance wouldn't do wicked things (thus one might imagine more religious countries needed fewer jails, perhaps).
 
Jack by the hedge said:
That gets us to psychopath, how did you make the jump to this indicating he was "likely a hardened atheist"?
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I guess it's a big, hysterical blur -- sexual predator, psychopath, Jew, atheist, and Satanist all get lumped together. To get the proper sense of it, just imagine frantic jazz hands overlaid by an image of Munch's "The Scream."
 
Vixen said:
Running a 'satanist'* ring is not necessarily the same as believing in it.
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And you know this how?

Putting together a criminal enterprise is hard enough on it's own. Bringing in Satanists is a huge risk because if someone believes in Satan and feels like Satan should be worshiped that person has a few screw loose, lacks maturity, judgement, and common sense. Why risk a billion dollar operation by bringing in nutjobs who believe in and worship the devil?

As a guy who has been a customer of a few strip clubs in Las Vegas I admit I can't remember anything about the decor, what if anything was hanging on the walls, and for all I know I probably left those places with a "Kick Me" sign taped to the back of my shirt. I'm fairly certain Epstein hit those same clubs when he was in town, and I doubt his decor represented anything more than a rich guy wanting to add style to his place.

Oh, and the Daily Mail has new photos from his New Mexico estate:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...iuffre-Jeffrey-Epsteins-New-Mexico-ranch.html
 
Vixen said:
It is a known established sociological phenomenon that paedophiles/sexual predators will often put themselves into a position whereby they can gain maximum contact with the objects of their desire. What more perfect camouflage than becoming an avuncular priest, child care worker, social worker for young adults...?

The Catholic priests who abused young boys were/are hardly sincere Christians as the New Testament doesn't like that type of thing. ;)
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Uhhh wait a minute. Firstly, are you implying that men who had paedophile urges decided to go through the rigmarole, complexity and time-sink of training for ordination as a priest.... in order ultimately to be able to get into positions of trust and solitude with young boys/girls?*

And secondly (but related to the first point), are you suggesting that men who were "not sincere Christians" went through the rigmarole, complexity and time-sink of training for ordination as a priest? Does the word "hypocrisy" not mean anything to you? And if we're talking of things the New Testament "doesn't like".... do you think that (just for example) gay priests/vicars are "hardly sincere Christians"? Or, for that matter, female priests/vicars?


* rather than, for example, just signing up to be a scout master or youth club leader or something
 
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Vixen said:
His musical taste was a nothing burger. Tell me about his great taste in music that made him a 'talented DJ'?
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Firstly, what the heck has Savile's "musical taste" got to do with his talent (or otherwise) as a DJ?



He had a high audience because his show was on at peak time. Note it wasn't Old Grey Whistle Test.
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What?? Do you think that show got handed to him on a golden platter out of thin air or something? Do you have any idea how shows like his ended up getting commissioned? And do you think that someone like Bob Harris was automatically somehow a more talented broadcaster simply because he presented OGWT?



Truth is, he was a gopher of children and young teens for a ring of powerful secretive paedophiles, so high up, Savile was never once charged even though EVERYBODY who worked with him knew of his er, tendencies, as it were. A couple came forward to say they witnessed him having sex with corpses in the mortuary.
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Oh here we go again. I mean, all of this is borne of ignorance, but just to take that last part as an example: did this couple "come forward" to police or other authorities a) while Savile was alive, and b) with credible evidence to support their claim (or with enough information for the police to find credible evidence themselves)?
 
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