2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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Puppycow said:
Probably. I'm worried about what will happen if democrats nominate someone too far to the left.
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Put your mind at ease, it was Corbyn personally who was unpopular, the Labour parties platform was reasonably popular.
 
I've seen some interviews with Pete Buttigieg in Norwegian.

If that's really self taught, it's incredibly impressive.
 
Pete Buttigieg, hero of the working man, drinking champagne out of crystal with billionaires behind closed doors. This is definitely what this country needs right now from the liberal party.

https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/1206670862356819968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1206670862356819968&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fpolitics%2Farticle%2FSee-photos-from-Buttigieg-s-lavish-private-Napa-14911087.php

This closed door meeting with rich donors was hosted by a man who made his fortune starting up a for profit health insurance HMO. He later bought an ambassadorship for his wife by pumping money into the Clinton campaign in the 90's.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Sounds like none of the Democratic nominees are pure enough to pass the test.
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Yup, definitely no difference between Pete and progressives like Sanders or even Warren.
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Would you mind telling me what the relation is between my post and yours? I made no mention of "differences" or anything of the sort, and your post looks like it was composed by ponderingturtle, not you.
 
Belz... said:
Would you mind telling me what the relation is between my post and yours? I made no mention of "differences" or anything of the sort, and your post looks like it was composed by ponderingturtle, not you.
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Perhaps I misunderstood your post then. What was your comment about purity tests referencing? I understood it to mean that my criticism of Pete was one that all the candidates would fail. Was this incorrect?

When it comes to holding closed door meetings with the ultra wealthy, there is a difference of opinion among the democratic primary candidates.

Nor would I consider the notion that Democratic candidates should not be selling political access as a tedious purity test.

For Christ's sake, this wine cellar looks like a set from a James Bond movie, right before the villain reveals a laser is about to destroy London or some other nefarious plot.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Perhaps I misunderstood your post then. What was your comment about purity tests referencing? I understood it to mean that my criticism of Pete was one that all the candidates would fail. Was this incorrect?
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What I'm saying is that it seems like every single democratic candidate is being criticised as having _something_, legitimate or not, that's going to sink their chances. When it's not one thing it's another. Now, I can't view Twitter from here so I can't follow your link, so I don't know how 'bad' Pete's is, but it's starting to look like none of the candidates pass the test, either because they're undesirable by their own fault, or because the voters are too picky.

Either way, if this keeps on, Trump's going to be reelected.
 
Belz... said:
What I'm saying is that it seems like every single democratic candidate is being criticised as having _something_, legitimate or not, that's going to sink their chances. When it's not one thing it's another. Now, I can't view Twitter from here so I can't follow your link, so I don't know how 'bad' Pete's is, but it's starting to look like none of the candidates pass the test, either because they're undesirable by their own fault, or because the voters are too picky.

Either way, if this keeps on, Trump's going to be reelected.
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Is there any evidence that a vigorous primary process damages the party's chances in the general election?

If HRC would have had some real competition, besides Bernie, in 2016, we might have never been in this mess to begin with.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Is there any evidence that a vigorous primary process damages the party's chances in the general election?

If HRC would have had some real competition, besides Bernie, in 2016, we might have never been in this mess to begin with.
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Speaking of Hillary, remember how she lost, presumably because she wasn't very exciting to voters? That's what I'm talking about.
 
TragicMonkey said:
That bodes well for next time. Even his worst enemies never accused Trump of being a boring president.
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I agree with that.
We don't need to worry so much about exciting our own base- Trump is doing that job for us with gusto.
We might take the lesson that if we are also able to keep the other side from getting too excited about our candidate, we can take the rust belt States necessary to regain the White House.
 
Distracted1 said:
I agree with that.
We don't need to worry so much about exciting our own base- Trump is doing that job for us with gusto.
We might take the lesson that if we are also able to keep the other side from getting too excited about our candidate, we can take the rust belt States necessary to regain the White House.
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Sounds like a plug for Bloombore.
 
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