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14-year-old Florida boy beaten for supporting Trump

Thermal said:
Yeah, it was sadistic. But I think that is plus or minus the norm anymore. Kids don't 'fight fair' anymore. They go MMA, not M of Q.
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Kids don't fight fair "anymore" ? When was this day when kids fought fair? Not during my childhood, not during my brother's, nor my mother's and her siblings nor my cousins' nor my nephew and niece's childhoods. So that covers a period since about 1925 to 2010 (couple of gaps of about 10 years each) of kids not fighting fair.
 
IsThisTheLife said:
I don't see how anything the kid's mother or the school had to say enters into this - the video simply shows a chubby white kid being battered mercilessly by a group of blacks who look older and bigger than he is, the girl who starts on him in particular - and what an animal she is. There's nothing remotely unusual about this tableau, everyone here knows it, whether they admit it or not.
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Yes, unfortunately when the President of the United States routinely spews hateful rhetoric and condones criminal violence, it eventually poisons the minds of our youth and things like this become more common. It is truly shameful.

Thank you for having the courage and integrity to speak out against it.
 
Checkmite said:
Disagree; it was unusually vicious and violent for a simple instance of bullying.
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Why? What made it unusually vicious? Because the girl raised her hands and brought them down swiftly when he was huddled in his seat? Because a few several other students got a few cracks in? That's kind of how fighting works. Didn't even fracture a single eye socket, which some claim is a mild and reasonable casualty. I don't see much unusually vicious in the video.

That's an amusingly pathetic reach, even for you.
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And we are down to personalized insults.

Several "sounds further away" than a few?

Okay, I'll humor you. Quantify these two, as they sound in your own head. What number of weeks is "a few" an acceptable adjective for, and what number would it have to be to qualify for "several"? And are these numbers based on an objective standard, or just your own feeling?
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Oh, I remember this fun quandary! 'How many grains of sand are in a heap of sand?'

Instead of changing the subject to personalizing insults, and childish precise quantifying games for words which are understood to be imprecise, howzabout we say that we already did this for several pages and both **** on the chessboard. In the spirit of the holidays, perhaps?
 
cullennz said:
Maybe where you live this is true

I have seen no mention of trying to help the sadistic chick from being a sadistic chick
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Right, when I grew up in NJ USA, this kind of ganging up was out of the question, as was beating someone you were far larger than. You fought clean, keeping it above the waist except for sweeps, stopped when the other guy gave, and all that. The peanut gallery would be all over your ass if you fought dirty. And yes, no one is calling to institutionalize the girl. It's just normal now.
 
Thermal said:
Right, when I grew up in NJ USA, this kind of ganging up was out of the question, as was beating someone you were far larger than. You fought clean, keeping it above the waist except for sweeps, stopped when the other guy gave, and all that. The peanut gallery would be all over your ass if you fought dirty. And yes, no one is calling to institutionalize the girl. It's just normal now.
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You lived a very different childhood to my entire family over generations of kids.
 
Thermal said:
Instead of changing the subject to personalizing insults, and childish precise quantifying games for words which are understood to be imprecise, howzabout we say that we already did this for several pages and both **** on the chessboard. In the spirit of the holidays, perhaps?
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You make the choice to nitpick over "a few" versus "several", even calling it a "subtle changing of facts", because one of these totally interchangeable synonyms just sounds like more to you for some inexplicable reason...but that's not a "childish precise quantifying game", only disputing it is. Gotcha.

"You're deliberately distorting facts! 'Several' sounds like subtly more than 'a few'!"

"Really? How much more?"

"STOP THIS CHILDISH PRECISE QUANTIFYING GAME!"
 
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Checkmite said:
You make the choice to nitpick over "a few" versus "several", even calling it a "subtle changing of facts", because one of these totally interchangeable synonyms just sounds like more to you for some inexplicable reason...but that's not a "childish precise quantifying game", only disputing it is. Gotcha.
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I 'nitpicked' over why you posted about not seeing a hat in a video where no one claimed there was one and the mother even said there was none.

You were spinning the facts to plant the suggestion that she was lying. The several/few thing was just lesser spin noted (and you know damn right well that 'a few' is thought of as less than 'several'). Now you want to keep snipping out references to the hat and focus on the precise quantity of few v several.

Please. Can we **** on the chessboard and flounce away from this? That is, unless you want to discuss honestly.

eta:RE: your edit: Yes, Checkmite. The words are imprecise but one is commonly viewed as representing a lesser quantity. And you know this. Yet you want to play the 'I challenge you to assign PRECISE quantities to IMPRECISE terms' game. It's an old one.
 
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Darat said:
We must have thicker skulls over here....
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When I was at school a bully punched me in the head from behind hard enough that he broke his hand. I was lucky he was stupid enough not to have punched me in the face instead. But yeah, thicker skull.:)
 
Norman Alexander said:
Whatever. It's Trump tat.
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It was a presidential candidate for 2020 hat

Which for some weird reason I do not comprehend, some posters on here and some other Americans find highly offensive, because it happened to be Trump.

Would be pretty funny, if they weren't actually being serious.
 
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Thermal said:
eta:RE: your edit: Yes, Checkmite. The words are imprecise but one is commonly viewed as representing a lesser quantity. And you know this.
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Evidently not. I "know" that the two terms mean literally the exact same thing and are freely interchangeable in any circumstance. The dictionary definition for several even explicitly includes "a few" inside it.

An indefinite but small number; some or a few: Several of the workers went home sick.
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But no stone is too small to overturn in the Search for the Secret Subtext, I guess.
 
I use the words few and several interchangeably, with no sense at all that one is greater than the other.
 
cullennz said:
It was a presidential candidate for 2020 hat

Which for some weird reason I do not comprehend, some posters on here and some other Americans find highly offensive, because it happened to be Trump.

Would be pretty funny, if they weren't actually being serious.
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I AM serious! My serious point was it was found and bought in a flea market, essentially a glorified yard sale. How did it even get there?

I mean, as you say, this is a current candidate for the 2020 presidential election and the sitting president. Other presidents including the mentally infirm and rather incompetent have whole libraries built to house their presidential material. But this campaign hat for Donny's current bid for re-election was sold for a few cents in a yard sale - it was unwanted and they could barely give it away.

I happen to think that says a lot about what the man-in-the-street REALLY thinks about this president.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I AM serious! My serious point was it was found and bought in a flea market, essentially a glorified yard sale. How did it even get there?

I mean, as you say, this is a current candidate for the 2020 presidential election and the sitting president. Other presidents including the mentally infirm and rather incompetent have whole libraries built to house their presidential material. But this campaign hat for Donny's current bid for re-election was sold for a few cents in a yard sale - it was unwanted and they could barely give it away.

I happen to think that says a lot about what the man-in-the-street REALLY thinks about this president.
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*Beat*

What?
 
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