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Mueller Investigation pt 7

Stacyhs said:
You can expect Trump supporters to continue claiming Trump's campaign was spied on regardless of the report's findings. Trump will never acknowledge the report's findings as accurate. It would not be surprising if he now begins to claim the IG investigation was biased and fixed.
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...and the IG declared to be a "never Trumper".
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Barr's statement:
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It's time to realise that facts don't matter. Not figuratively, but literally.

This is like when the Mueller report painted a damning picture of the Trump campaign and administration, and Trump said it complely exonerated him, or when he keeps telling us to read the transcript that shows that he extorted another country for political dirt.

It doesn't matter anymore. We've moved beyond facts into a new realm of chaos.
 
What Belz said.

All source of facts have been destroyed, dismissable as bias or fake news.

All forms of argumentatives have been destroyed, trolling has been perfected to the point that it can shut down any argument it wants.

It is impossible to present information or share it or to argue for it. The tiny fringe of reality deniers that used to live on the margins are now in the center.

We are in a post-truth world.
 
It is a Constitutional Crisis when the AG lies about the work of the FBI on a critical case with overwhelmingly evidence to the contrary.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
It is a Constitutional Crisis when the AG lies about the work of the FBI on a critical case with overwhelmingly evidence to the contrary.
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Trump causes 37 Constitutional Crisis before breakfast.

Again... you can't have lies in a world without facts.
 
Despite what I said just hours ago, looks like Durham is now walking point.

Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.
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Again, he did not support this contention by sharing any of the evidence he claims to have with the IG.
 
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Belz... said:
Post-fact. People are free to choose their truth. It is, in fact, truth that has killed fact.
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I would call it Truthism rather than Truth.

We are now in a world where nothing we are told can be believed, it is almost impossible without knowing primary sources if what you are being told about is real or not.

JayUtah stated in my signature that It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality, but we are all fast getting there, where reality and truth will be nothing more that what we choose to believe from whom we choose to believe it, and no one's truth and reality will be allowed to be any more real than anyone else's chosen truth and reality.
 
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Sadly, Trump supporters will believe Barr and Trump over the actual IG report. They'll believe this:

White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a statement: "The shocking report from the DOJ Inspector General shows an out-of-control FBI under President Obama and former Director Jim Comey."

President Trump, meanwhile, called the FBI's conduct "a disgrace" and said it was "far worse than ever thought possible."
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fi...eleases-findings-on-russia-probe-surveillance

Lindsey Graham is also maintaining his position as a Trump brown noser:

Graham started the presser by arguing that “the point I want to make is: let’s assume for a moment it started out OK, it sure as hell didn’t end OK.”

Despite acknowledging that “there may be reasonable differences about whether there was a lawful predicate,” Graham said that “not only did the system got off the rails” but in his view became a “criminal enterprise.”
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“Not only did the system go off the rails, but in my view became a criminal enterprise to defraud the FISA court, to deny American citizen Carter Page’s constitutional rights and to continue an operation against President Trump — as President of the United States — that I think was fundamentally flawed and unlawful,” Graham said, before saying that “these are statements I don’t make lightly” and are “based on the findings of the report.”
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/graham-reaction-doj-ig-report

What a putz.
 
Trebuchet said:
Graham has long been rumored to be gay. I wonder if the Russkies have provided Trump with some evidence. [/conspiracy theory]
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It would not surprise me if Trump had something over a lot of those who fawn over him in Congress (Nunes, Gaetz, Meadows etc). It would certainly go a long way to explaining some of their perfidy
 
I couldn't care less of Graham is gay or not. Irrelevant to me...but to his Southern Baptist constituents, it would matter.
 
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smartcooky said:
It would not surprise me if Trump had something over a lot of those who fawn over him in Congress (Nunes, Gaetz, Meadows etc). It would certainly go a long way to explaining some of their perfidy
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Its more fear of being "Primaried" and losing their seats then anything else.
In the US rank and file party members vote directly for who is to be their party's candidate;it's not like in the UK where party officals really have the power to decide who is running.
 
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Stacyhs said:
I couldn't care less of Graham is gay or not. Irrelevant to me...but to his Southern Baptist constituents, it would matter.
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Nah.

He'd just beg forgiveness. Claim he found Jesus again. Mebbe go to a pray-the-gay-away re-education camp for a month. Somewhere with Jacuzzis and wet bars in the en suite private cabins, probably.

All forgiven and forgotten.

The only unforgivable transgressions are to be a Democrat and/or say something disparaging about Trump.
 
Accusing the FBI of anti-Trump bias might be less about 2016 and more about ongoing and future Investigations into Trump.
 
smartcooky said:
It would not surprise me if Trump had something over a lot of those who fawn over him in Congress (Nunes, Gaetz, Meadows etc). It would certainly go a long way to explaining some of their perfidy
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Maybe a few people, like he knows the Russians donated to McConnell's campaigns.

But Nunes and Gaetz are definitely groupies.
 
quadraginta said:
Nah.

He'd just beg forgiveness. Claim he found Jesus again. Mebbe go to a pray-the-gay-away re-education camp for a month. Somewhere with Jacuzzis and wet bars in the en suite private cabins, probably..
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This is alt-right Trumpies we are talking about here, he'd simply deny, deep fake videos or whatever. Real reality is not a requirement.
 
PhantomWolf said:
I would call it Truthism rather than Truth.

We are now in a world where nothing we are told can be believed, it is almost impossible without knowing primary sources if what you are being told about is real or not.

JayUtah stated in my signature that It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality, but we are all fast getting there, where reality and truth will be nothing more that what we choose to believe from whom we choose to believe it, and no one's truth and reality will be allowed to be any more real than anyone else's chosen truth and reality.
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The above is exactly what I meant by "truth". :)
 
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