Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

Vixen said:
But they worshipped idols in the form of a bull did they not?
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How about you respond to the post you quoted, rather than launch into irrelevancies?

Your question was to do with evidence he was a spy.
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Absolutely not.

Your principal claim, and the title of this thread, is about Satanism. I'm asking you about Satanism and you keep changing the subject. That doesn't sound very confident.
 
Vixen said:
Er, you did know that Epstein was in the possession of a fake Saudi Arabian passport...did you not?
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Vixen said:
... he was in possession of a fake passport. A Saudi Arabian one.

… They said the expired Austrian passport was found in the locked safe
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It's the prosecutors saying it, not me.
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Was the Saudi passport maybe hidden underneath the Austrian one?

It's this striking attention to detail that makes the case for his being a Satanist so compelling. Great work. Do carry on.
 
Belz... said:
How about you respond to the post you quoted, rather than launch into irrelevancies?



Absolutely not.

Your principal claim, and the title of this thread, is about Satanism. I'm asking you about Satanism and you keep changing the subject. That doesn't sound very confident.
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If you simply redefine the subject you don't have to change it. Everything is Satanism except when it isn't (yet).
 
Vixen said:
Why is it so hard to accept that Epstein ran a clandestine occult racket - meaning the participants have some vow of secrecy, not to mention being blackmailed by spy tapes and the threat of exposure and prosecution.

At a conference Ghislaine Maxwell was bragging that 64% of the world's oceans come under no jurisdiction (- no man's land, as it were-) and that she was part of some oceanic project involving submarines. Now, Epstein's island temple has several hidden entrances several floors below (from Rachel Chandler's instagram pictures of the underground chambers, there are roughly four floors). We know it is deep because of the very steep steps that lead down from the trapdoor inside the temple doors.

Think about it: the underage victims were sneaked in by Ghislaine's submarine at a landing port and arrive undetected by air traffic control radar nor sighted by coast guards. Chantau Davies and Virginia Roberts Guiffre themselves confess to have recruited up to fifty teenage girls each to satisfy Epstein's lust.

Epstein set up a sperm donation for scientists whom he spent a lot of time wining and dining and planned to impregnate fifty girls at a time with 'top brain' elites. Virginia claims Epstein and Maxwell tried to force her to have his baby and hand it over. WHERE IS THAT BABY if it happened, as she claims?

Where are all those young girls procured by Epstein. Where is Jean Luc Brunel, who ran a Paris model agency and allegedly supplied girls who looked twelve-years old? Why has he and Ghislaine gone into hiding?

It is claimed Epstein spent a huge sum of money filling in his underground tunnels with rubble and many files and documents were removed before the FBI got there.

Some reports claim the FBI found human remains around the shore of small skeletons and skulls. What likely happened at his temple was horrific.

These Egyptian occultists have a belief that the further you go underground the nearer you are to these sinister 'gods'.

From this is must surely be blindingly obvious that Epstein wasn't 'just a dirty old man' procuring prostitutes and masseuse up to his mansion.

He had a massive supply of them via Les Wexner who owned Victoria's Secrets and procured models for his lingerie range, via Maxwell and Brunel and via people like Virginia, Chantau and Rachel, already in his sex ring.

This was no one-man perversion. This was a Mossad agent on a mission to blackmail the world's leading statesmen, lawyers and scientists (in a foreign interference operation) an involved - if the sealed court depositions are to be believed - at least ONE THOUSAND people in high places. That isn't the actions of some sole individual disgusting sex pervert down the road.
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Where might I go and find said submarine? Which witnesses indicated they were transported via submarine? Seems cheaper and easier to convince them that they were getting modeling gigs or some such.
 
Vixen said:
Here you are, Ghislaine Maxwell giving it large about her submarine work and being outside the law.

The youtube video is titled: WDS2 - Ghislaine Maxwell and The TerraMar Project
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She is talking about the problem of plastics pollution in the oceans. She refers to being in a DDS (Deep Diving Submersible) which holds maybe four people. She does not say if she was piloting the vehicle.

You do not need a license to pilot a submarine depending on its size. And the USCG requires a Master's License for a vessel of equivalent tonnage.

Here's the submarine landing station, as attached.


ETA By coincidence (haha) the Terramar Project which involved Richard Branson ceased upon Epstein's arrest.

https://usahitman.com/underground-epsteinisland/
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You've linked to a nutjob website.

There are no reports of any construction on his island on that scale.

You're getting carried away with goofball BS. Why are you allergic to the facts of how the world works?

1. You don't need submarines or tunnels to move people. Esptein moved his girls right out in the open in front of everyone.

2. Epstein got away with it because nobody bothered to ask questions, not because they were silenced, but apathy.

3. It is not hard to manipulate teenage girls and easy to scare them into silence.

I ask again, why aren't the facts enough for you? Why chases phantom Satanists?
 
Craig4 said:
Where might I go and find said submarine? Which witnesses indicated they were transported via submarine? Seems cheaper and easier to convince them that they were getting modeling gigs or some such.
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Get out your check-book:

https://www.mysubmarines.com/

You might notice that the submarine type needed to pull off this scheme is a little out of Epstein's price range.

I want the underwater bar sub.:thumbsup:
 
Vixen said:
Nothing. Your question was to do with evidence he was a spy. I answered he was in possession of a fake passport. A Saudi Arabian one.

Now why would Epstein, a one-time maths teacher from blue-collar Brooklyn, dad a gardener, be in possession of a fake passport (some say several) and a seemingly endless pot of wealth?
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Epstein's wealth has been explained to a point. Nobody outside of the FBI has seen his books.

As for the fake Saudi passport goes the Saudis and the Arabian Peninsula have long been a central hub for human trafficking, but having one makes him a criminal, not a spy.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Give it time.
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Yes. And I should have added - currently. I remember a time when Jewish mysticism was thought of as Satanic in the popular imagination (without people necessarily knowing that the terms referred to Jewish mysticism).
 
But then again I recall when "legerdemain" was used as a word to describe sinister occult or Satanic practices whereas it is obviously simply a word referring to stage magic.
 
Axxman300 said:
She is talking about the problem of plastics pollution in the oceans. She refers to being in a DDS (Deep Diving Submersible) which holds maybe four people. She does not say if she was piloting the vehicle.

You do not need a license to pilot a submarine depending on its size. And the USCG requires a Master's License for a vessel of equivalent tonnage.



You've linked to a nutjob website.

There are no reports of any construction on his island on that scale.

You're getting carried away with goofball BS. Why are you allergic to the facts of how the world works?

1. You don't need submarines or tunnels to move people. Esptein moved his girls right out in the open in front of everyone.

2. Epstein got away with it because nobody bothered to ask questions, not because they were silenced, but apathy.

3. It is not hard to manipulate teenage girls and easy to scare them into silence.

I ask again, why aren't the facts enough for you? Why chases phantom Satanists?
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Maxwell has submarine credentials. Your number 3 is clearly nonsense. Do you really believe Mr Dirty Old Man can get away with procuring literally hundreds of teens for two or three decades without at least a few of them fighting back very hard indeed?

You can be in denial that such people exist. That is your prerogative.
 
Axxman300 said:
Get out your check-book:

https://www.mysubmarines.com/

You might notice that the submarine type needed to pull off this scheme is a little out of Epstein's price range.

I want the underwater bar sub.:thumbsup:
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Maxwell set up the TerraMar foundation. It involved people like Richard Branson (hello? he can afford a whole fleet of Boeings).

Robert Maxwell almost certainly managed to salt away a few million/billion which his daughter Ghislaine has clearly got her hands on. After his death you would have thought that the Maxwells would be bankrupt with their criminally gotten gains through raiding pension funds but no, Ghislaine has been rolling in money.
 
Vixen said:
If that is the hegemony then is that not true? Were you to be in Iran you'd be called an infidel. 'Twas e'er thus.
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What utter rot. The lack of a mention of jesus in any religion does not make said religion satanism. That is an impossibly naive idea.

And anyway, jesus cannot even be demonstrated to have existed.
 
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