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Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed?

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That's okay, because it gives you an opportunity to point out the trend:

Black Thursday: 1851
Black Friday: 1939
Black Sunday: 1955
Black Tuesday: 1967
Ash Wednesday: 1983
Eastern Seaboard: 1993
Black Christmas: 2001
Canberra: 2003
Victoria: 2003
Junee: 2006
Multiple: 2006
Kangaroo Island: 2007
Black Saturday: 2009
Tasmania: 2013
NSW: 2013
Esperance: 2015
Carwoola: 2017
Tathra: 2018
NSW/QLD: 2019

Pesky facts. Some people have a great deal of difficulty with them.
 
Higher daytime temperatures in Australia are making brushfires more frequent and more severe. Suggesting otherwise is classic climate scei9nce denial.

Higher sea levels are making flooding in Venice (and other coastal cities like Miami) more frequent and more severe. Suggesting otherwise is classic climate science denial.


No ****

Suggesting otherwise wasn't what I was doing.

Try re-reading my posts.
 
I see Greta's disciples/fans/adorers have found something else to focus their climate change efforts on.

They think she is actually a time traveller sent forward in time to save mankind.

Must get a bit boring a fidgety for them while she is on the boats.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12286651

Time traveller? 'Greta Thunberg' spotted in 121-year-old photo

Conspiracy theorists have claimed Greta Thunberg is a time traveller "sent back to save us" with the 16-year-old looking eerily similar to a girl from a photo taken 121 years ago.

People throughout the world took to social media to share the photograph which shows three children operating a rocker at a gold mine in Canada in 1898.

In the foreground is a young girl who looks extremely similar to Thunberg, a climate change activist.

The image was recently found in the picture archives of the University of Washington.

While the likely explanation is that the pair are lookalikes, it hasn't stopped the conspiracy theorists from scheming up their own thoughts.

One impressed person joked that the Swedish teenager had been "sent back to save us".

"So 'Greta Thunberg' is in a photo from 120 years ago, and it's my new favourite conspiracy," he tweeted. "Greta's a time traveller, from the future, and she's here to save us."

Another social media user quipped: "I'm not one for conspiracy theories but she is 100 per cent a time traveller."

"Maybe she is from the future who was sent back in time to key moments in history to stop climate change."

Another said: "What it is, right, is that actually she's a time traveller, and she's come to warn us about the future. It's the only explanation."

Greta has become a symbol of a growing movement of young climate change activists after leading weekly school strikes in Sweden that inspired similar actions in around 100 cities worldwide.
 
Higher daytime temperatures in Australia are making brushfires more frequent and more severe. Suggesting otherwise is classic climate scei9nce denial.

Higher sea levels are making flooding in Venice (and other coastal cities like Miami) more frequent and more severe. Suggesting otherwise is classic climate science denial.


And would suggest saying Venice is more frequent, but lose the severe
 
No ****

Suggesting otherwise wasn't what I was doing.

Try re-reading my posts.

Rubbish.

Do you think people here are unable to understand simple English? “Simple” being the key word here. You stated that bushfire frequency was not a valid issue in Australia as there have always been bushfires here. This position of yours was demolished.

Please take responsibility for what you post. Saying “I was wrong about bushfire frequency” isn’t that hard. Just do it and don’t accuse people of misreading your simple, and wrong, posts.
 
Rubbish.

Do you think people here are unable to understand simple English? “Simple” being the key word here. You stated that bushfire frequency was not a valid issue in Australia as there have always been bushfires here. This position of yours was demolished.

Please take responsibility for what you post. Saying “I was wrong about bushfire frequency” isn’t that hard. Just do it and don’t accuse people of misreading your simple, and wrong, posts.

If you actually read my posts you would see I was warning arguments climate deniers will use against the arguments.

More fires - There have always been fires (I don't disagree they are getting worse, but you will next get a lot started by people)

More frequent Venice floods - Good

Severe Venice floods - Not good.

I am just trying to point out these examples aren't great Climate change examples.

Are if you had sane people you are talking to, but you aren't normally talking to sane people on this topic
 
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I have a personal theory that the best argument "More frequent issue #### as we hit 2019" is one of the hardest ones to actually drum into peoples heads, as they always fall back on the "Yeah but what about that one in '66" (In the Venice case) the idiots seem to be fixated on.
 
If you actually read my posts you would see I was warning arguments climate deniers will use against the arguments.

More fires - There have always been fires (I don't disagree they are getting worse, but you will next get a lot started by people)

More frequent Venice floods - Good

Severe Venice floods - Not good.

I am just trying to point out these examples aren't great Climate change examples.
Are if you had sane people you are talking to, but you aren't normally talking to sane people on this topic

You are completely and utterly wrong. You have been show why you are wrong. Unwillingness to accept that you are lying is Denialism101. Accept it.
 
You are completely and utterly wrong. You have been show why you are wrong. Unwillingness to accept that you are lying is Denialism101. Accept it.

I meant to say arguments

And as much as you humour me in your weird posts

Maybe find one post from me denying climate change is real as you are beginning to look hysterical
 
I meant to say arguments

And as much as you humour me in your weird posts

Maybe find one post from me denying climate change is real as you are beginning to look hysterical

I’ve already shown you. Nobody is being fooled. You have said, against scientific consensus, that warming will not be as much as predicted (you said something like that 1.5 degrees, not specifying Celsius or Fahrenheit, won’t be so bad) and it won’t occur soon anyway. The posts are there.

That’s denial. And, while you have tried to slink back from that position, you have repeated virtually each and every denialist meme in this very thread. Own it.
 
I’ve already shown you. Nobody is being fooled. You have said, against scientific consensus, that warming will not be as much as predicted (you said something like that 1.5 degrees, not specifying Celsius or Fahrenheit, won’t be so bad) and it won’t occur soon anyway. The posts are there.

That’s denial. And, while you have tried to slink back from that position, you have repeated virtually each and every denialist meme in this very thread. Own it.

Awesome

Brilliant

How is saying the temperature going up 1.5 degrees but not as much higher as some predict, saying the climate is not warming?
 
And I missed this gem

"not specifying Celsius or Fahrenheit"

I'm a kiwi

Have a wild stab in the dark
 
Awesome

Brilliant

How is saying the temperature going up 1.5 degrees but not as much higher as some predict, saying the climate is not warming?

Denialism. You simply don’t get it. You have been told countless times that saying “yes, it’s warming, but it’s not so bad” is denialism. Own it.
 
And I missed this gem

"not specifying Celsius or Fahrenheit"

I'm a kiwi

Have a wild stab in the dark

How the **** would I know? This is a US based forum. Which is it?

The point is that, as a denialist, you neither know or care.
 
How the **** would I know? This is a US based forum. Which is it?

The point is that, as a denialist, you neither know or care.

Maybe the point you know I am a kiwi would work.

I get you are trying to get these posts cut and pasted to off the thread to the "beyond all hope" or wwhatever it is called, which is funny in itself, but you still have time to try to find a climate denial post from me in the interim
 
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I can give you a hand if you like.

Was semi skeptic of it about the level about 12 years ago I think
 
I think the massive thing missing here is that it is possible to be critical of Greta (Or her teams) methods while still agreeing with the concept of climate change screwing the world.

I think a couple of posters seem to fail to grasp this.
 
And until India, China and the US act (which they won't) in the plucked out of the air 11 years till death to all, it is a tad silly.

I also think climate change happens naturally as to not do so would be dim. The question is how much mans influence has on these changes
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And frankly again. I do not know. The fact you think your awesome enough to know for sure is great ...... Big ups to you.
You are claiming current climate change is entirely caused by man and there is a consensus amongst climate scientists saying this, yet just post a report up and expect people to trawl through it .

Given we have had several ice ages, it is not unreasonable to ask you to actually post the bit saying scientists are saying the latest natural climate changes are different and this one is entirely man made

Then a poster said climate change is entirely man made and the overall consensus of scientist say this

I disagreed.

They posted a link to a massive report

And I mentioned it is all based on computer modelling any way

I'm assuming you mean this one

"If carbon emissions are not curbed, and global temperatures continue to rise, researchers expect the risks of climate change to increase.""

They wont

Forgive me for not getting panicky over 1 degree, given the earths changes naturally

There are a heap more after this. The last one is classic. 1 degree (what scale?) no problem? This is rank stupidity.
 
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