Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed?

[cullennz]

You don't buy how much of the right wing attacks on Thunberg are to discredit her cause? Otherwise who would care so much about this one 16 year old?

All the criticism of her methods are from the right wing?

Or do you just think more of the criticisms are from the right wing, which I would agree with?

 

[Giordano]

But none get her

You are right! I carelessly misspoke. There is one conservative, living in a yurt in Mongolian, who gets her. Sorry to generalize.

 

[cullennz]

You are right! I carelessly misspoke. There is one conservative, living in a yurt in Mongolian, who gets her. Sorry to generalize.

Sorry, but we had a conservative government who signed the french agreement and spent shed loads on subsidising insulating houses which was good.

Maybe where you live conservatives are all idiots.

If true, maybe you might want to put "my countries conservatives"

 

[Giordano]

All the criticism of her methods are from the right wing?

Or do you just think more of the criticisms are from the right wing, which I would agree with?

This is intensely silly! I referred to the criticisms from the right wing; I said nothing to suggest that these were the only criticisms. Although they clearly are the source of the bulk of the criticisms.

Isn’t this obvious? Why do I have the feeling your posts are asking silly questions just for me to waste my time answering them?

 

[cullennz]

Again, I did not say that at all. By not getting Thunberg I mean not understanding her strategy and approach. Not that conservatives cannot be environmentalists. Some are.

But they are to thick to work out her strategy and approach?

 

[cullennz]

This is intensely silly! I referred to the criticisms from the right wing; I said nothing to suggest that these were the only criticisms. Although they clearly are the source of the bulk of the criticisms.

Isn’t this obvious? Why do I have the feeling your posts are asking silly questions just for me to waste my time answering them?

Well no

At least not in NZ

I have seen our more Labour type voters (left) criticise her , and National (right if you stretch the term to the max).

Just saying you might want to not paint all people on one side of the political spectrum on things like universal health care, tax rates, the economy, housing, immigration, with the same brush over some 16 year old

 

[Giordano]

All the criticism of her methods are from the right wing?

Or do you just think more of the criticisms are from the right wing, which I would agree with?

Sorry, but we had a conservative government who signed the french agreement and spent shed loads on subsidising insulating houses which was good.

Maybe where you live conservatives are all idiots.

If true, maybe you might want to put "my countries conservatives"

You are still not getting what I mean by conservatives not “getting” Thonberg. Or pretending not to. Didn’t we once have a long discussion about the term “trans” that ended up in the world of pretend?

 

[cullennz]

You are still not getting what I mean by conservatives not “getting” Thonberg. Or pretending not to. Didn’t we once have a long discussion about the term “trans” that ended up in the world of pretend?

Why don't you just define what you mean by conservative and no

 

[cullennz]

And as an aside

Maybe give her the respect to spell her name right

 

[Giordano]

All the criticism of her methods are from the right wing?

Or do you just think more of the criticisms are from the right wing, which I would agree with?

Well no

At least not in NZ

I have seen our more Labour type voters (left) criticise her , and National (right if you stretch the term to the max).

Just saying you might want to not paint all people on one side of the political spectrum on things like universal health care, tax rates, the economy, housing, immigration, with the same brush over some 16 year old

Good thing I didn’t

 

[Giordano]

And as an aside

Maybe give her the respect to spell her name right

I’m transiting to bed; too late to play with you any more tonight.

 

[cullennz]

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Good thing I didn’t

I have criticised the Greta band wagon

Hands up guilty

I believe in climate change, universal healthcare, benefits for those in the ****.

I myself would call myself completely middle of the road in politics

Just get a bit frustrated when any criticism of her or others suddenly makes me a right wing nutcase

But all good

 

[Orphia Nay]

Ours

In fact our PM has called climate change "Her generations nuclear free moment"

Not that they doing any good from it.

And not that it will make any difference given the miniscule amount of emissions we comparatively emit

Per capita?

Just saying you might want to not paint all people on one side of the political spectrum on things like universal health care, tax rates, the economy, housing, immigration, with the same brush over some 16 year old

Agree, apart from the ageism.

I have criticised the Greta band wagon

Hands up guilty

I believe in climate change, universal healthcare, benefits for those in the ****.

I myself would call myself completely middle of the road in politics

Just get a bit frustrated when any criticism of her or others suddenly makes me a right wing nutcase

But all good

I've always thought you were far, far more "left" than, say, TBD, or others in the US.

The problem I see isn't to do with any left/right labels.

It's that you attack Thunberg illogically or emotionally, with ad homs and the wrong information about her, and always seem to be talking about a fanclub or church in here, when people are instead pointing out faulty reasoning in some of your statements,




This thread seems odd to me. It's like many in it have prior bad opinions of each other, and are using the thread to score points against each other, not add to all of our knowledge via discussion about the topic.

 

[lionking]

I have criticised the Greta band wagon

Hands up guilty

I believe in climate change, universal healthcare, benefits for those in the ****.

I myself would call myself completely middle of the road in politics

Just get a bit frustrated when any criticism of her or others suddenly makes me a right wing nutcase

But all good

When dd you start? Because earlier in this thread you doubted the extent and timing of global warming. Do you believe in climate change but only slowly? This is classic Denialism.

Based on your performance in this thread, I don’t think you believe in climate change at all.

 

[cullennz]

When dd you start? Because earlier in this thread you doubted the extent and timing of global warming. Do you believe in climate change but only slowly? This is classic Denialism.

Based on your performance in this thread, I don’t think you believe in climate change at all.

I simply said I don't agree that in 8 years the world will become and unstoppable death spiral, if we don't meet someones theoretical figures

 

[cullennz]

Per capita?





Agree, apart from the ageism.




I've always thought you were far, far more "left" than, say, TBD, or others in the US.

The problem I see isn't to do with any left/right labels.

It's that you attack Thunberg illogically or emotionally, with ad homs and the wrong information about her, and always seem to be talking about a fanclub or church in here, when people are instead pointing out faulty reasoning in some of your statements,




This thread seems odd to me. It's like many in it have prior bad opinions of each other, and are using the thread to score points against each other, not add to all of our knowledge via discussion about the topic.

I disagree with her causing more carbon by sailing in a yacht than catching a plane is irrelevant.

 

[cullennz]

Mind you in 8 years you might get to say I told you so and the world stops working.

Everything dies and weirdo religious types say Armageddon is happening,

And the odd Nostradamus weirdo trying to join links that used to be the twin towers, and before that the two royals

 

[lionking]

I simply said I don't agree that in 8 years the world will become and unstoppable death spiral, if we don't meet someones theoretical figures

Why don’t you agree that if serious action doesn’t happen in the next decade or so, dangerous climate change will be locked in? See, I accept scientific opinion on this. What do you base your opinions on? Do you have qualifications in this area so that people will accept this opinion?

See, you might just say “it’s my opinion”, but an opinion without basis can be dismissed comprehensively and with derision.

 

[cullennz]

Why don’t you agree that if serious action doesn’t happen in the next decade or so, dangerous climate change will be locked in? See, I accept scientific opinion on this. What do you base your opinions on? Do you have qualifications in this area so that people will accept this opinion?

See, you might just say “it’s my opinion”, but an opinion without basis can be dismissed comprehensively and with derision.

Meanwhile let's tell vulnerable young people it is 8 years or they die

 

[lionking]

Meanwhile let's tell vulnerable young people it is 8 years or they die

You are the only one saying this. Greta is not.