Mueller Investigation pt 7

acbytesla said:
I fail to see what's funny.
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Of course you do. Do you know that famous Black Knight scene? That's what you and your fellow Russiagate CTers look like after all crippled legs of the moronic story you bothered the world with for years have come off. And here you are acting as if nobody noticed. Funny.

 
Childlike Empress said:
Of course you do. Do you know that famous Black Knight scene? That's what you and your fellow Russiagate CTers look like after all crippled legs of the moronic story you bothered the world with for years have come off. And here you are acting as if nobody noticed. Funny.

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Now the Monty Python Black Knight skit is hilarious. I give you that. But there is nothing funny about Trump being Putin's bitch. I see that Dumb Donald is considering attending the May Day celebrations as his benefactor's guest. First Trump gets Russian hookers to pee on him. Now he wants all of the US to share his experience.

Out of curiosity Empress, how many rubles do you get for your posts? Or do they pay you in dollars?
 
smartcooky said:
Its just more evidence that Trump became very angry when he realised that the Presidency does not make him all-powerful, or give him the authority to wipe out his enemies and critics with a stroke of the pen. He must have been seething when a Grand Jury would not indict McCabe.

Grand Juries - enemies of the people.
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You know they had to have nothing because the old joke is you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Excellent renarration of the last ten seconds of the scene. *nut-sound nut-sound*
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Yea, its like Trump saying all those political losses don't matter. "Extorting Ukraine is not a crime! You should be investigating Biden, not me" It's not an impeachable offense. Trump is the epitome of the Black Knight. All I see Trump and his supporters peddling is disinformation on a massive scale.
 
acbytesla said:
Now the Monty Python Black Knight skit is hilarious. I give you that. But there is nothing funny about Trump being Putin's bitch. I see that Dumb Donald is considering attending the May Day celebrations as his benefactor's guest. First Trump gets Russian hookers to pee on him. Now he wants all of the US to share his experience.
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To be clear, once again... That's not what the raws say. It was that the peeing was reportedly done where Obama had slept, not that it was done on Trump. The "golden shower" description that was widely spread is pretty much disinformation, given its normal usage.
 
Aridas said:
To be clear, once again... That's not what the raws say. It was that the peeing was reportedly done where Obama had slept, not that it was done on Trump. The "golden shower" description that was widely spread is pretty much disinformation, given its normal usage.
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Literary license.
 
Aridas said:
Of a problematic sort.
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I really don't care about Trump's kinks. Whether the hookers peed on him, the bed or there were no hookers. That part is merely "color".

What I do know about the Russia investigation is that Russia interfered with the 2016 Presidential election. That Trump invited that interference, that his campaign was eager for any help they might offer (the Trump tower meeting). And that after Trump was elected he proceeded to kiss Putin's ass in the most obsequious fashion. And that Trump proceeded to obstruct justice in every way imaginable.

If Trump isn't guilty of conspiring with Russia why did he proceed to act like the guiltiest person that ever lived?
 
acbytesla said:
I really don't care about Trump's kinks. Whether the hookers peed on him, the bed or there were no hookers. That part is merely "color".
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And you're demonstrating why it's so problematic right there. What's actually described really doesn't look much like a kink in the first place. It looks like a petty and crass act of vindictive hate. That's bad enough on its own, of course, but that it would also give the Russians (more) blackmail that would fairly certainly be effective when it comes to a pathological narcissist like Trump, both directly and as part of "Putin is actually your friend" mind games as Putin claims to have prevented the release of such, demonstrates that this guy has seriously horrible judgement and is a danger to national security (something that's been shown to be true over and over and over since, of course). That's pretty much why the whole thing matters in the first place.

acbytesla said:
What I do know about the Russia investigation is that Russia interfered with the 2016 Presidential election. That Trump invited that interference, that his campaign was eager for any help they might offer (the Trump tower meeting). And that after Trump was elected he proceeded to kiss Putin's ass in the most obsequious fashion. And that Trump proceeded to obstruct justice in every way imaginable.

If Trump isn't guilty of conspiring with Russia why did he proceed to act like the guiltiest person that ever lived?
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That's not a great attempt to change the subject, true as that stuff may be.
 
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Aridas said:
That's not a great attempt to change the subject, true as that stuff may be.
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I thought the "subject" was the Mueller investigation or was the thread mislabeled?

I see this conversation a lot like Comey did. Comey reports The Steele dossier to Trump and Trump freaks out wanting to disprove it all. Now Comey didn't put nuch stock in the accuracy of the Steele Dossier until that moment.

Obviously, the hooker golden shower is the least likely part of the Steele dossier. I dismissed it the moment I heard it. But it is the most fun part of it to mock Trump trolls.

I'm sure you understand.
 
acbytesla said:
I thought the "subject" was the Mueller investigation or was the thread mislabeled?
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:rolleyes: Do you really, really need walked through the conversation that JUST happened?

acbytesla said:
I see this conversation a lot like Comey did. Comey reports The Steele dossier to Trump and Trump freaks out wanting to disprove it all. Now Comey didn't put nuch stock in the accuracy of the Steele Dossier until that moment.
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Source? It rather sounds like you're likely playing a bit fast and loose with the facts again.

acbytesla said:
Obviously, the hooker golden shower is the least likely part of the Steele dossier. I dismissed it the moment I heard it.
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The most salacious. This is Trump that we're talking about, though, so it's rather hard to call it the least likely.

acbytesla said:
But it is the most fun part of it to mock Trump trolls.

I'm sure you understand.
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Given that it's the most salacious, I'm not surprised. With that said, though, I don't derive pleasure from mocking Trump trolls for things that they didn't claim. They generally produce plenty of foolishness without bringing in outside claims.
 
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Aridas said:
:rolleyes: Do you really, really need walked through the conversation that JUST happened?
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I KNOW what I said and there is a huge difference between obvious hyperbole and lying. Lying means you are deliberately stating falsehoods with an intent to deceive. Do you really think my comment was an intent to deceive or was it to make fun of Trump?

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Source? It rather sounds like you're likely playing a bit fast and loose with the facts again.
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Where have you been living? Under a rock? Tell me which part you want proof on since my statement was general and a bit vague.
 
acbytesla said:
I KNOW what I said and there is a huge difference between obvious hyperbole and lying.
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And I accused you of neither. Hookers peeing on Trump is a fundamentally wrong description of what's stated in the raws and changes the nature of the event from being absurdly petty, moronic, and spiteful to being just a kink. I didn't accuse you of lying. I pointed out what you said was wrong and wrong in a way that was likely produced by the not particularly clear reporting that happened at the time about it.

acbytesla said:
Where have you been living? Under a rock? Tell me which part you want proof on since my statement was general and a bit vague.
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There are only two statements there. I'll poke at a couple more specific things, though.

Comey reports The Steele dossier to Trump and Trump freaks out wanting to disprove it all.
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Disprove? Are you sure it wasn't more along the lines of discredit, rather than disprove?

Now Comey didn't put nuch stock in the accuracy of the Steele Dossier until that moment.
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This part, though, is what really spurred that fast and loose part. To borrow from Wikipedia, either way, as a nice place to start - Link is to the showers part specifically, first quote part is from the first part of the veracity bit.

During his April 15, 2018, ABC News interview with George Stephanopoulos, former FBI Director James Comey described Steele as a "credible source": "It was coming from a credible source, someone with a track record, someone who was a credible and respected member of an allied intelligence service during his career, and so it was important that we try to understand it, and see what could we verify, what could we rule in or rule out."

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James Comey wrote in his book A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership that Trump asked him to have the FBI investigate the pee tape allegation "because he wanted to convince his wife that it wasn't true":[227]

He brought up what he called the 'golden showers thing' … adding that it bothered him if there was 'even a 1 percent chance' his wife, Melania, thought it was true." Comey then wrote: "In what kind of marriage, to what kind of man, does a spouse conclude there is only a 99 percent chance her husband didn't do that?[227]

Comey did not know if the "golden showers" allegation was true, but he came to believe it was possible. In an interview for ABC News, he told George Stephanopoulos:

I honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but I don't know whether the current president of the United States was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013. It's possible, but I don't know.[228]
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Aridas said:
And I accused you of neither. Hookers peeing on Trump is a fundamentally wrong description of what's stated in the raws and changes the nature of the event from being absurdly petty, moronic, and spiteful to being just a kink. I didn't accuse you of lying. I pointed out what you said was wrong and wrong in a way that was likely produced by the not particularly clear reporting that happened at the time about it.
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You're right, you didn't. That was my mistake conflating a couple other posts with yours. Yuppie suggested I was "normalizing lying" . In my view Trump has been peeing on America with his constant lying and attacks on our institutions. I ADMITTEDLY took a literary licence with the Steele dossier which in itself offered an outrageous story without any evidence about Russian hookers and Trump. I mean if you're going to believe that story on that evidence whats the difference?
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This part, though, is what really spurred that fast and loose part. To borrow from Wikipedia, either way, as a nice place to start - Link is to the showers part specifically, first quote part is from the first part of the veracity bit.
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I don't even need to go to Wikipedia since I saw the interview they referenced. It's not that Comey thought poorly of Steele. It's that he saw the Steele Dossier for what it was which was raw intelligence. He didn't believe the salacious bits and while he thought the Dossier warranted further vetting he wasn't going to prejudge how much was true or false.
 
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