2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

[TurkeysGhost]

A billionaire cries over Liz Warren.

Not a Warren fan, but this counts as a pretty strong endorsement in my book.

 

[Minoosh]

This. Kelly has an awesome resume. But his candidacy is really single-issue (gun control), and he's up against another awesome resume in McSalley. I don't see how he overcomes the gun control label in AZ.

She's already lost to a Democrat once. But we'll see.

 

[Minoosh]

Good Lord. McSally wanted *all* background checks abolished. Then she looked deep into her soul and decided that wasn't great campaign strategy.

 

[acbytesla]

Oh, okay. Thanks for keeping track of this.

Whose keeping track? There are actually quite a few articles about this subject. Trump comparing people to dogs as a pejorative touches a nerve for many.

People are weird. Right, left or center, the majority of people like dogs and many of them prefer them to people. So much so, they might be hardly bothered if they read about humans being abused but they become outraged if a dog is.

 

[theprestige]

Whose keeping track?

Who's*.

There are actually quite a few articles about this subject.

Sorry. I didn't mean to suggest you were personally tabulating all the times he's used the term. Just that you happen to have a list of such uses, probably because there's quite a few articles for you to reference, and you're... keeping track of them?

Trump comparing people to dogs as a pejorative touches a nerve for many.

Everything Trump does touches a nerve for many. Even innocuous stuff.

People are weird. Right, left or center, the majority of people like dogs and many of them prefer them to people. So much so, they might be hardly bothered if they read about humans being abused but they become outraged if a dog is.

I swing both ways. I'm comfortable both with appreciating dogs for all their superior qualities to humans, and also with figures of speech that use allusions to dogs as a pejorative.

 

[acbytesla]

Who's*.

Correct. I thought knew better than to make that mistake. Apparently, I was wrong.

Sorry. I didn't mean to suggest you were personally tabulating all the times he's used the term. Just that you happen to have a list of such uses, probably because there's quite a few articles for you to reference, and you're... keeping track of them?

There is this thing called a search engine. You should try it sometime.

I swing both ways.

Too much information.

 

[theprestige]

Too much information.

Is that why you dismissed the part where I explain what I mean? It was too much, somehow?

 

[acbytesla]

Is that why you dismissed the part where I explain what I mean? It was too much, somehow?

It's called a joke.

 

[Belz...]

Is that why you dismissed the part where I explain what I mean? It was too much, somehow?

I almost made that joke myself. Calm down.

 

[TragicMonkey]

It's called a joke.

Captain Peacock: It was just a little joke, sir.
Customer: Only just.

 

[acbytesla]

I almost made that joke myself. Calm down.

Captain Peacock: It was just a little joke, sir.
Customer: Only just.

Too hard to resist.

 

[theprestige]

It's called a joke.

I understand that it was a joke. But we were having a conversation. I was explaining my view, that it's both possible and reasonable to have positive and negative figures of speech involving dogs and comparisons to dogs. I attached a little bit of humor to my point. You latched onto the humor, and ignored the point. I wish you had engaged with the point, as well as making the joke. Ignoring the point makes your joke a little too on the nose, perhaps.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I understand that it was a joke. But we were having a conversation. I was explaining my view, that it's both possible and reasonable to have positive and negative figures of speech involving dogs and comparisons to dogs. I attached a little bit of humor to my point. You latched onto the humor, and ignored the point. I wish you had engaged with the point, as well as making the joke. Ignoring the point makes your joke a little too on the nose, perhaps.

On the dog's nose?

 

[Belz...]

On the dog's nose?

What that positive or pejorative?

 

[TragicMonkey]

What that positive or pejorative?

When it's thrust unexpectedly against a temperature-senstive place a dog's nose is definitely pejorative.

 

[acbytesla]

I understand that it was a joke. But we were having a conversation. I was explaining my view, that it's both possible and reasonable to have positive and negative figures of speech involving dogs and comparisons to dogs. I attached a little bit of humor to my point. You latched onto the humor, and ignored the point. I wish you had engaged with the point, as well as making the joke. Ignoring the point makes your joke a little too on the nose, perhaps.

It just goes to show what happens when you throw the ball down the middle of the plate. Someone is going to hit it.

I got the point. But who uses dogs as a pejorative? Someone who hates dogs I guess. "Work like a dog" and "loyal as a dog" I've heard, but those expressions are not negative.

 

[TragicMonkey]

It just goes to show what happens when you throw the ball down the middle of the plate. Someone is going to hit it.

I got the point. But who uses dogs as a pejorative? Someone who hates dogs I guess. "Work like a dog" and "loyal as a dog" I've heard, but those expressions are not negative.

I think that's reading too much into it. I've used "shoot down like a dog" and "slunk away like a dog" but I like dogs. Expressions are handy linguistic constructs, there isn't always much significance in their employment. I don't believe in any deities but my speech includes expressions like "godforsaken" and exclamations referencing various mythological figures.

 

[acbytesla]

I think that's reading too much into it. I've used "shoot down like a dog" and "slunk away like a dog" but I like dogs. Expressions are handy linguistic constructs, there isn't always much significance in their employment. I don't believe in any deities but my speech includes expressions like "godforsaken" and exclamations referencing various mythological figures.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I really don't care that Trump hates dogs although it is hardly surprising. It's that he hates people or at least anyone who refuses to stroke him that I find despicable.

I too ABSOLUTELY don't believe in any deities and yet find myself using references to God. I mean what else are you going to say during sex?

 

[Aridas]

Everything Trump does touches a nerve for many. Even innocuous stuff.

Sure. Keep telling yourself that as you try to minimize the impact of the mountain of legitimate issues with Trump.

I got the point. But who uses dogs as a pejorative? Someone who hates dogs I guess. "Work like a dog" and "loyal as a dog" I've heard, but those expressions are not negative.

A lot of people use it as a pejorative worldwide, and have for a very long time. The really short underlying insult, of course, is that it's saying that someone doesn't qualify as human. That they're a lesser being for whatever arbitrary reason.

Anyways, other stuff!

Terrified Of Warren, Wall St. Donors Now Threatening To Withhold Donations To Senate Dem Candidates

Unpleasant, but... they're certainly showing where their priorities are.

 

[theprestige]

Sure. Keep telling yourself that as you try to minimize the impact of the mountain of legitimate issues with Trump.

Quick question: Is using "like a dog" as a pejorative one of the legitimate issues?