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God's Omnipotence

c4ts said:
I suppose he thinks the whole universe operates based on what he wants to be true...
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No, I prefer to think of myself in terms of a living functioning entity, that's all. And if you find that to be wholly self-referential, that's your problem.
 
GOD, being with "omnipotent" but still indescribable & infinite properties, can do everything himself by forming/creating/concentrating, HIS complexes. OK? One out of those complexes may be you. :)
 
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ReFLeX said:
Err. No. Omni = all. Potency = power. Omnipotency = all-powerful.
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Which is to say everything falls under its domain.

If an explanation is circular then you haven't defined anything.
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So, how do you speak of anything that doesn't fall outside of a particular domain? It would be wholly self-referential to that domain would it not?
 
So if God is omnipotence he should be able to kill himself.
Now there are two possibilities either he can kill himself or not. If he can kill himself he is able to die so he isn't omnipotence.
And if he can not kill himself he is not omnipotence.

So the only possible conclusion is God is not omnipotence.
 
On the subject of omnipotence:

"Naomi! Sex, at noon! Taxes," I moan.

I bet God can't do that. In fact, I'll bet 1/666th of my soul that God can't post another, better palindrome in the post immediately following mine, against 1/666th of His powers.
 
lwsichsldt said:
So if God is omnipotence he should be able to kill himself.
Now there are two possibilities either he can kill himself or not. If he can kill himself he is able to die so he isn't omnipotence.
And if he can not kill himself he is not omnipotence.

So the only possible conclusion is God is not omnipotence.
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Good point. But few so called as God or alike it, may be dead but may have not yet been dead in people's heart, faith & become "immortal". Does it not justify both? :)
 
lwsichsldt said:
So if God is omnipotence he should be able to kill himself.
Now there are two possibilities either he can kill himself or not. If he can kill himself he is able to die so he isn't omnipotence.
And if he can not kill himself he is not omnipotence.

So the only possible conclusion is God is not omnipotence.
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Yes, but how could wholeness destroy itself? ... If it was a matter of could, does it mean He would? It would certainly be within His power not to.
 
"So if God is omnipotence he should be able to kill himself.
Now there are two possibilities either he can kill himself or not. If he can kill himself he is able to die so he isn't omnipotence.
And if he can not kill himself he is not omnipotence.

So the only possible conclusion is God is not omnipotence."

Killing himself would mean completely getting rid of his power, this is opposite of omnipotence.
 
Hmmm. If you create something/one in your mind, of course you can endow this creation with whatever you want to endow it with. Stan Lee capitalized on this idea decades ago.

Regards,

M.
 
Iacchus said:
Yes, but how could wholeness destroy itself? ... If it was a matter of could, does it mean He would? It would certainly be within His power not to.
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It is not the matter of how he kills himself or even if he would. It is about the possibility of him being able to do so and that alone is the point against God's Omnipotence.
 
lwsichsldt said:
It is not the matter of how he kills himself or even if he would. It is about the possibility of him being able to do so and that alone is the point against God's Omnipotence.
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The thing is, only He would have the power to do so.
 
Iacchus said:
1/666 x 666/1 = 666/666 = 1/1 = 1
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W00T! I now possess 1/666th of God's powers!

Of course, 1/666th of nothing is still nothing...

:D

BTW - does anyone else find it just SAD - I mean, tragic in the extreme - that Iacchus will post something, then quote his own post in a reply? Is that pathetic, or what?
 
Iacchus said:
Yes, and perhaps you should begin to speak in terms of wholeness, instead of the scatter-brained philosophy you propose? Are you at all familiar with the story of Humpty Dumpty?
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Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
 
zaayrdragon said:
On the subject of omnipotence:

"Naomi! Sex, at noon! Taxes," I moan.

I bet God can't do that. In fact, I'll bet 1/666th of my soul that God can't post another, better palindrome in the post immediately following mine, against 1/666th of His powers.
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A man, a plan, a canal; Panama!

I feel a kitten coming on.

(edited for punctuation)
 
zaayrdragon said:
BTW - does anyone else find it just SAD - I mean, tragic in the extreme - that Iacchus will post something, then quote his own post in a reply? Is that pathetic, or what?
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Pathetic? No. It's just that every once in awhile even I need a little back up.
 
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