Passing Peak Trump?

Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?
 
2020 will be about sapping enthusiasm for Trump: anything concrete Dems can point to will help with that, any good excuse for traditional Republicans to stay at home.
But it will take a thrashing at the ballot box for GOP leadership to gather the courage to denounce Trump openly and permanently.
 
Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?


Deploraphobia n. : Irrational fear of Trump's 40% base.

No matter how energized they are, they only get to vote once.
 
Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?

I don't think it matters, they will claim persecution and be energized whether or not Trump is impeached by the House.
 
Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Probably not (at least not directly), since republicans in the Senate are unlikely to vote him out.
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?
Trump has been a very corrupt and destructive individual.

Impeachment proceedings can do 3 things (any of which will be beneficial)
- It might force him out of office. (The chance is tiny, but it still exists)
- By highlighting some of his corrupt behavior, it gives added knowledge to the electorate in the next election, so that even if he's not forced out within the next year, there is a better chance he'll lose in 2020.
- It may help 'tie him down', if Republicans decide that the added attention of impeachment necessitates them actually cracking down on Trump.

Now, there is a chance he may become more unstable over time, but given how bad he was before, I can't really see things getting much worse.
No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?
Nixon resigned, but he would not have left office were it not for the impeachment proceedings.
Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energize them for the elections?
There is a chance that some people who might have liked Trump are encouraged to vote instead of sitting out the 2020 election. But there's also a chance it will energize people who might have sat out thinking "Trump ain't so bad" to make them think "Ok, this guy really does need to be removed".
 
The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if.
Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.
 
The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if.
Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.

Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.
 
Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

maybe.
But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump.
In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.
 
maybe.
But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump.
In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.

The Alt-Right has been bamboozled by Trump.

They thought they were getting a wall and a return to 1920's immigration policy.

The only promise he's somewhat kept is that he has not expanded military adventures. (The Alt-Right thinks that all wars are wars for Israel, even Afghanistan).
 
The Alt-Right has been bamboozled by Trump.

They thought they were getting a wall and a return to 1920's immigration policy.

The only promise he's somewhat kept is that he has not expanded military adventures. (The Alt-Right thinks that all wars are wars for Israel, even Afghanistan).

And even they have been less bamboozled than the Fundies, who think Trump is nigh upon the second coming of Christ, personally chosen by Gawd to establish his Dominion over the world. I'm a better Christian than Trump, and I'm an atheist.
 
And even they have been less bamboozled than the Fundies, who think Trump is nigh upon the second coming of Christ, personally chosen by Gawd to establish his Dominion over the world. I'm a better Christian than Trump, and I'm an atheist.

I know Muslims that are better Christians than Trump.
 
Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.


Sorry, but that this is going to blow over quickly is just plain wrong.
 
Last edited:
Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

You mean that whopping 35 percent approval rating?

Sorry Don. Not even close. The public House hearing will go on for at least the next 2 months. Then we get the Senate Trial.
 

Back
Top Bottom