Electric universe theories here.

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Sol88 said:
Two things sport.

Can gravity attract or repulse?

So the very fact the electric force can do BOTH makes gravity a manifestation of the electric force.
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Uh, no. The fact that like charges repel in electricity but like masses attract in gravity proves that neither can be a manifestation of the other. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, how can you be so wrong?
 
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Uh, no. The fact that like charges repel in electricity but like masses attract in gravity proves that neither can be a manifestation of the other. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, how can you be so wrong?
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How do you make gravity repel?

Very easy for the electric fields, charged particles and electric currents.


The basic premise of the Electric Universe.

:D
 
JeanTate said:
Sol88?

The Electric Universe is full of pure nonsense, such as the Sun is powered by giant inter-galactic currents, quasars which have redshifts inconsistent with their distances (indeed, ejected from other galactic nuclei), the Grand Canyon created by a lightning bolt from Venus ~4,000 years ago, the CMB as a forest of universe-spanning current filaments, gravitational lensing due to refraction by plasmas, etc.

Time to recommend this thread be moved to a more appropriate home, such as the Round File?
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See .... giant intergalactic currents.
 
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I came across a person the other day, critical of the bbt/finite universe as well as the current application of redshift. Basically, his argument was the following:
there is an alternative which is red shift by photon decay , but we never hear of the other red shift by mainstream science , because the bbt is based on red shift the dopler effect red shift by movement , if red shift by photon decay then the Universe is not 13.7 billion years old , expanding finite etc
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To which he linked to a short summary by someone who is named Michael Lewis: The Hubble Red Shift by Photon Decay: a sensible explanation

I've never heard of this photon-decay alternative thingy.
 
Sol88 said:
How do you make gravity repel?

Very easy for the electric fields, charged particles and electric currents.


The basic premise of the Electric Universe.

:D
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Which is therefore fundamentally flawed. Gravity doesn't repel, in case you hadn't noticed. Fail.
 
You are really starting to show your ignorance.

Donald Scott: Modeling Birkeland Currents, Part 1 | EU Workshop

Kristian Birkeland’s hypothesis [1] that Earth’s auroras are powered by electric charges flowing from the Sun was shown to be correct in the late 1960’s [2]. Since that time there has been a growing interest in the exact structure of those streams. What are the precise shapes and physical proper- ties of these currents that cascade down into Earth’s polar regions? NASA calls them “magnetic flux-ropes”. A more proper name is Birkeland Currents [3]. The general form of those tube-like flux-ropes is best visualized as being a set of concentric, counter- rotating, cylinders made up of vari- ous electric currents and magnetic fields.
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Don Scott has now made you look like a complete goose...

Going against the flow around a supermassive black hole

"Surprisingly, we found two disks of gas rotating in opposite directions."
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Expected in an electric Universe as described by Don Scott

Fancy that, applying standard mainstream plasma physics.

Still, Big Bang and black holes, beautiful elegant mathamagics.

Not what’s observed now is it and your nemesis just showed you up. How do you feel.
 
Force free field aligned currents.

:D

Either way Scott was on the money.

Mainstream will now struggle to make black holes work this way

Standard plasma physics
 
tusenfem said:
Space physicist call these Birkeland currents, driving the aurora through field aligned currents produced by activity in the Earth's magnetotail.
Flux ropes are not an alternative name for Birkeland currents.
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Splitting hairs

Facts stand. Counter rotation observed accounted for by the Electric Universe.
 
EU magic!

There is a potential difference troughout the solar system that is both powerful enough to create cometary tails and weak (or selective enough) not to affect anything else moving trough the solar system, as the solar wind and all spacecraft behave as if it's not there.

There are currents moving trough the solar system that are both powerful enough to power the sun, but capable of moving trough a vacuum in a continous way without generating any form of magnetism and also avoiding the few conductive bodies in the solar system (like the planets).

In fact EU electricity and electric fields behave in ways not seen on earth ever, and cannot be modeled in any way, given the complete lack of mathematics shown by the EU crowd.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
EU magic!

There is a potential difference troughout the solar system that is both powerful enough to create cometary tails and weak (or selective enough) not to affect anything else moving trough the solar system, as the solar wind and all spacecraft behave as if it's not there.

There are currents moving trough the solar system that are both powerful enough to power the sun, but capable of moving trough a vacuum in a continous way without generating any form of magnetism and also avoiding the few conductive bodies in the solar system (like the planets).

In fact EU electricity and electric fields behave in ways not seen on earth ever, and cannot be modeled in any way, given the complete lack of mathematics shown by the EU crowd.
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No, mainstream ignorance.

They are there. We flew thru a couple with Ulysses.

And in fact black hole jets are electric currents.

Oh you required mathamagics for proof? Proved black holes did it not?

The astronomers think that the backward flow in NGC 1068 might be caused by gas clouds that fell out of the host galaxy, or by a small passing galaxy on a counter-rotating orbit captured in the disk.
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whooo boy this is your theory Lukraak.

Now ad hoc hw a black hole induces counter rotation in a galaxy....please send more $$
 
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Lukraak_Sisser said:
EU magic!

There is a potential difference troughout the solar system that is both powerful enough to create cometary tails and weak (or selective enough) not to affect anything else moving trough the solar system, as the solar wind and all spacecraft behave as if it's not there.

There are currents moving trough the solar system that are both powerful enough to power the sun, but capable of moving trough a vacuum in a continous way without generating any form of magnetism and also avoiding the few conductive bodies in the solar system (like the planets).

In fact EU electricity and electric fields behave in ways not seen on earth ever, and cannot be modeled in any way, given the complete lack of mathematics shown by the EU crowd.
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Focus champ focus.

Is there a potential difference between the solar wind and the comet nucleus?
 
Sol88 said:
Force free field aligned currents.

:D

Either way Scott was on the money.

Mainstream will now struggle to make black holes work this way

Standard plasma physics
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No it isn't. EU has no explanation for black holes. Fail. And Scott hasn't got a clue.
 
Sol88 said:
Focus champ focus.

Is there a potential difference between the solar wind and the comet nucleus?
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Nope. Solar wind isn't in contact with the nucleus for long periods. However, it has permanent access to the nuclei of asteroids. Nothing happens. Fail.
 
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