The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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So, remember all those condos and other properties that had been branded 'Trump' that ended up removing his name because they didn't want to be associated with a racist?

Well, add a few New York stating rinks to the list...

From: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-name-removed-from-his-new-york-ice-rinks-report-2019-10
Donald Trump's name has been removed or hidden from the branding at the New York City ice rinks which have for decades borne his name...

So who was responsible? Who is the owner of the rinks that considered the Trump name to be so toxic that they would want to remove his name?

The Trump Organization has run the rinks since the 1980s...

Oh. So the Trump Organization thinks the Trump name is bad for business.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Trump lawyers heavily rely on the fact that many white collar crimes require the perpetrator to be aware that what they are doing is wrongillegal. Because Trump is so open about his crimes and because he has been doing them all his life, he is effectively immune to many charges that would land a more careful person in jail for decades.
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Fixed that for you.
Legal/illegal and right/wrong are often two different concepts. It's only legal or illegal that matter in statute law. A business action can be wrong and immoral as hell, but if it's not illegal it does not matter in court.
My attorney sister would yell at me if I let that error pass.
 
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What I find obnoxious about the pro Trumpers here is the way they try to normalize Trump's behavior.
Their hand waving away of all the stupid things Trump says is an example."Yeah, he says a lot of stupid things, but so what? Just look at what he does" is an incredibly dumb argument. What the POTUS says matters.
 
Guys, guys you're missing the obvious way this makes perfect sense.

It's a really big fence, as wide as New Mexico. Ain't no dirty brown furriner getting across that!
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Trump lawyers heavily rely on the fact that many white collar crimes require the perpetrator to be aware that what they are doing is wrong. Because Trump is so open about his crimes and because he has been doing them all his life, he is effectively immune to many charges that would land a more careful person in jail for decades.
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dudalb said:
Fixed that for you.
Legal/illegal and right/wrong are often two different concepts. It's only legal or illegal that matter in statute law.
My attorney sister would yell at me if I let that error pass.
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It's a huge mistake to think this is about legality even though I would imagine it clearly is a violation of election laws.

The question is does it qualify as a high crime under the US Constitution which is something entirely different. Criminality is not required. Is it an abuse of the power the voters entrusted in the President?

I really don't see how anyone with a conscience can argue it isn't. I don't think that any Republican would have said it was OK for Obama or Clinton to extort a foreign government so they could smear their political opposition. I mean these are the same Republicans who spent two years climbing up Hillary's ass because she did what we all do which is cleaning out our email boxes.
 
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Armitage72 said:
An MLB umpire Tweeted that he's buying an AR-15 "because if you impeach MY PRESIDENT this way, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER CIVAL WAR!!! #MAGA2020"

He sounds like a very reasonable and even-tempered man.
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At least he wasn't promoting violence on American soil.

But why would he want America to go to war against some archaeological site in Guatemala? After all, the Mayan civilization isn't around anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cival
 
Segnosaur said:
At least he wasn't promoting violence on American soil.

But why would he want America to go to war against some archaeological site in Guatemala? After all, the Mayan civilization isn't around anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cival
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Perhaps he meant "civet". Trendy exotic pets are terrible, but I don't think we've recovered adequately from the first three Civet Wars to consider another.
 
Aridas said:
I reject this. What he's actually doing is much the same as what he's done with stuff like the term "fake news." He knows that just about nothing he calls fake news is actually factually incorrect or otherwise wrong and has made that clear a number of times. He's just using his total redefinition of the term that renders it virtually powerless, while playing on the inherent legitimacy of the language to make it easy to fool those already well primed to be tricked on that front and thus making the gaslighting he's engaging in so much more effective.
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See also hypnotic repetition and crooked Hillary, no collusion, etc.
 
The Shrike said:
See also hypnotic repetition and crooked Hillary, no collusion, etc.
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I think he might believe that 2-5 syllable are best for conveying a message to the American public. Short aphorisms are easy to remember and are easy to chant.

I suppose that some might argue that there is no issue so complex that the right perspective on it cannot be communicated to hoi polloi in just five syllables.

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others have speculated that Trump will be a college level course in the near future.
I’m picturing
Trump 101 Paying bills is for losers
Trump 102 The campaign
Trump 201 The first year
Trump 202 Mr. Toad’s wild ride
Trump 301 ????
 
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Ladewig said:
I think he might believe that 2-5 syllable are best for conveying a message to the American public. Short aphorisms are easy to remember and are easy to chant.

I suppose that some might argue that there is no issue so complex that the right perspective on it cannot be communicated to hoi polloi in just five syllables.
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That's why the Right is so focused in the last few years on being "Technically Correct."

Trump can stand on a stage and say the Rustbelt states have the lowest unemployment in decades and not be technically lying.

A Democrat has to counter that with a long and detailed breakdown of underemployment, wage stagnation, inflation, cost of living, the numbers being skewed by people just giving up and not looking for jobs, the raise of the working poor, people holding multiple jobs, people staying at home later in life, etc, etc, etc.

Trump wins because by the time the Democrats get done explaining why he's wrong nobody cares.
 
dudalb said:
Trump is the most ignorant man ever to hold the presidency.
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I don't know if that is true and I don't think you do either. I'm not saying you're wrong. Neither Buchanan or Harding was considered to be very smart. But he definitely falls in the top 5.

Or is that the bottom 5?
 
dudalb said:
TRrump is now using the "just kidding" excuse for his Colorado remark.
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What was the joke, then? The only way this would be funny (other than the obvious) would be as some sort of self-deprecating aside. This piece of **** doesn't do self-deprecation.
 
Resume said:
What was the joke, then? The only way this would be funny (other than the obvious) would be as some sort of self-deprecating aside. This piece of **** doesn't do self-deprecation.
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And I lost count a long time ago, of the number of times he makes a stupid statement and then tries to pass if off as making a joke.
 
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