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The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Ziggurat said:
I didn't bring up the subject. Go complain to dudalb.
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I think you're in the right on this, but it is kinda telling that out of all the big, interesting, important things going on, some people being hypocrites about use of the phrase "lynch mob" is what you want to jump in and chat about.
 
kellyb said:
I think you're in the right on this, but it is kinda telling that out of all the big, interesting, important things going on, some people being hypocrites about use of the phrase "lynch mob" is what you want to jump in and chat about.
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Apparently even when I'm right, I'm wrong. That's a bull **** standard.

I'm not under any obligation to post about whatever it is anyone else wants me to post about. I don't need to address any one topic in order to be allowed to voice my opinion about another one. There are countless reasons people refrain from posting about anything in particular, and you don't get to assume what those reasons are. This is basically just a veiled ad hominem.
 
Ziggurat said:
Apparently even when I'm right, I'm wrong. That's a bull **** standard.

I'm not under any obligation to post about whatever it is anyone else wants me to post about. I don't need to address any one topic in order to be allowed to voice my opinion about another one. There are countless reasons people refrain from posting about anything in particular, and you don't get to assume what those reasons are. This is basically just a veiled ad hominem.
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I really just wish you'd contribute to meatier political topics. Seriously.

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I guess most of your views are more or less accurately described in National Review nowadays?
 
JoeMorgue said:
Trump has ordered all sanctions on Turkey lifted.
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The Kurds have completely been forgotten about within GOP circles.

The few prominent Republicans who were willing to put their heads above the parapet have seen that there's nothing to be gained by supporting America's allies - and a lot to be lost if Trump's base turns on them.

As has been pointed out upthread, President Trump is very transactional, you're only his ally if you have something to offer him right now. Past services are irrelevant and future benefits are speculative. All of the US's allies and trading partners should take note for the next 5 years at least (and possibly for significantly longer if this is the new normal).
 
kellyb said:
I really just wish you'd contribute to meatier political topics. Seriously.

:con2:
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Then you can say that without trying to insult me for not having done so to your satisfaction.

I guess most of your views are more or less accurately described in National Review nowadays?
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I wouldn't know, I don't read it, but I doubt it. I've never found a source that I think aligns with me 100%. And I suspect there are topics we agree on that you don't know we agree on because I usually don't bother to post just to agree with people.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Happy to oblige.

I read the first take at outrage being “Using the term ‘lynching’ is horribly offensive”. I took that as universally bad.

Then, whataboutism set in, where it was pointed out how many others have used the term in the past, including the newly outraged Democrats.

So the first take was modified to read “Using the term ‘lynching’ is especially horribly offensive when President does it”.

That seems to me to have moved the goalpost. But these things are never black-and-white, so I appreciate some may view it differently.
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In a thread about the Trump presidency, I think it's reasonable for the "and POTUS does it" qualifier to be assumed. YMMV
 
Belz... said:
You don't think the President of the republic comparing a legal congressional proceeding to an illegal and corrupt lynching, and insisting that it is so, is stupid and dangerous?
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I think it's politics as usual. We might like politics to not be dirty, but it is, and always has been. This isn't even a noteworthy example of such.

Did you think it was stupid and dangerous when CNN called the Benghazi investigation a lynching? Probably not. Certainly most Democrats didn't.
 
Ziggurat said:
I think it's politics as usual. We might like politics to not be dirty, but it is, and always has been. This isn't even a noteworthy example of such.
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When does it become noteworthy? When people like Mr. Steele take notice and respond? When there are demonstrations in the street? What?

Did you think it was stupid and dangerous when CNN called the Benghazi investigation a lynching?
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CNN isn't the President, but it was certainly a stupid comparison, yes. People on this forum might use it as hyperbole, but CNN should know better as a news service.
 
Ziggurat said:
Apparently even when I'm right, I'm wrong. That's a bull **** standard.

I'm not under any obligation to post about whatever it is anyone else wants me to post about. I don't need to address any one topic in order to be allowed to voice my opinion about another one. There are countless reasons people refrain from posting about anything in particular, and you don't get to assume what those reasons are. This is basically just a veiled ad hominem.
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Sure I do. And you can make similar assumptions. Why not?

The poster who only posts in a thread about Nazi's to correct people about the actual details of the SS uniform builds a reputation through such posts. Just as much as the poster who engages psychics in polite reputation of their claimed abilities. Or the person who posts one catch phrase over and over, only interrupted by laughing dog emojis.

What others are meant to assume and what others do assume is left up to others. But, on this forum we are nothing more than what we post.
 
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