The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 29

[Bill Williams]

FYI The bra clasp was originally found UNDER the body which was UNDER a duvet UNDER scattered bits of paper that the 'interrupted burglar' was scattering during his burglary BEFORE being 'interrupted' by Mez.

How did Raff's DNA get to there from the door?

Go figure.

 

[whoanellie]

If it is incorrect that weight x velocity equals distance travelled of a thrown inanimate obiect, how come when I was watching the mm-world championship athletics t'other day a narrrative came up on my screen displaying at what velocity each javelin thrower threw his javelin as it lauched in the air? Surely there must be a link for the highest speed at release were also the ones that seemed to travel the furthest. (134 mpk iirc.)

Wow! Another one to add to my list.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis
"Any physically meaningful equation (and any inequality) will have the same dimensions on its left and right sides, a property known as dimensional homogeneity. Checking for dimensional homogeneity is a common application of dimensional analysis, serving as a plausibility check on derived equations and computations. It also serves as a guide and constraint in deriving equations that may describe a physical system in the absence of a more rigorous derivation."

 

[AnimalFriendly]

Sorry to break it to you but Guede has no criminal record of trespassing or breaking in.

Bagels didn't say "record", he/she said history. Perhaps one day Vix's reading comprehension will exceed that of a 6-year-old.

 

[Vixen]

Bagels didn't say "record", he/she said history. Perhaps one day Vix's reading comprehension will exceed that of a 6-year-old.

Who can put their hand up and truthfully claim they have never trespassed, even if it was when you were a kid and you tiptoed across someone's lawn to retrieve your ball. Or you played 'chicken' at the local railway tunnel? You listened out for a train coming, at which point you flattened yourself against the tunnel wall as an express train hurled past at 90 mph. Or you crept into the school bike sheds late in the evening to share a fag or a snog. Maybe you took a short cut across a farmer's field?

 

[whoanellie]

By the way Vixen, what is 134 mpk?

 

[TruthCalls]

Who can put their hand up and truthfully claim they have never trespassed, even if it was when you were a kid and you tiptoed across someone's lawn to retrieve your ball. Or you played 'chicken' at the local railway tunnel? You listened out for a train coming, at which point you flattened yourself against the tunnel wall as an express train hurled past at 90 mph. Or you crept into the school bike sheds late in the evening to share a fag or a snog. Maybe you took a short cut across a farmer's field?

Well I can tell you I never broke into a school and spent the night there. I can also tell you I've never broken into someone's apartment and then confronted them with a knife when I was detected. And I certainly was never caught with stolen property from a law office which had been broken into a few days prior.

But yeah, I do recall a time I climbed over a fence and went into someone else's property to retrieve a baseball hit to far, so you got me there.

 

[LondonJohn]

By the way Vixen, what is 134 mpk?

I'll accept that one as a typo on Vixen's part (unless her dimensional *jazz freestyling* extends to "miles per Kelvin".....)

But we're way, way beyond the realms of "typos" when it comes to "weight x velocity equals distance travelled of a thrown inanimate object" LMAO

 

[whoanellie]

I'll accept that one as a typo on Vixen's part (unless her dimensional *jazz freestyling* extends to "miles per Kelvin".....)

But we're way, way beyond the realms of "typos" when it comes to "weight x velocity equals distance travelled of a thrown inanimate object" LMAO

 

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Sollecito must have pressed his fingers firmly on the bra clasp hook for it to have shown such a high profile DNA sample. There were fragments of 6-8 allele of another two males, which can safely be dismissed as background contamination (for example, from dust).

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It's always confused me as to why at least 3 male profiles were found on the bra-clasp and nowhere else at the crime scene. It seems that if the traces were NOT due to contamination there would have to be at least 3 different male assailants attacking Meredith with the sole interest of seizing the bra-clasp and having no interest or interaction with anything else in the room. Why didn't these 3 anonymous assailants not just ask Meredith for her bra-clasp and spare the poor girls life since that it seems was all they were interested in? Once the 3 anonymous assailants did get the clasp, what did they do with it except leave their traces all over it? Did they perform a little ritual before burying the bra-clasp under the rug in Meredith's room? OMG! it's got to be the masons! Hey, I've an idea! Why don't we ask Naseer (The man from Atlan) to ask the now archived Gabriella Carlizzi who can then contact Meredith who can.....Nah! I've got a better idea, it's CONTAMINATION right?

Hoots

Just to be accurate, that was not my quote above; that was Vixen's post. The whole thing is just complete supposition not based on any science. It's just nonsense pulled out of Vixen's repository of non-scientific 'sigh-ence'.

 

[Stacyhs]

Sorry to break it to you but Guede has no criminal record of trespassing or breaking in.

No point reading any further.

As for your last sentence...say no more.

Nice try. He has no criminal record of trespassing or breaking in because he was ordered released by the Milan prosecutor before he was charged/tried for some still unknown reason. It's not like he hadn't been caught red-handed. Or do you really believe he met some South American guy at the train station who let him into the nursery school for 20 euros as he claimed?

Guede DOES have a criminal record for receiving stolen property as well as the murder conviction

 

[Stacyhs]

Who can put their hand up and truthfully claim they have never trespassed, even if it was when you were a kid and you tiptoed across someone's lawn to retrieve your ball. Or you played 'chicken' at the local railway tunnel? You listened out for a train coming, at which point you flattened yourself against the tunnel wall as an express train hurled past at 90 mph. Or you crept into the school bike sheds late in the evening to share a fag or a snog. Maybe you took a short cut across a farmer's field?

Are you seriously trying to equate stealing into a nursery school without permission, helping yourself to the owner's computer cable, sleeping there, and stealing a knife from the kitchen with hopping a fence to retrieve a wayward ball?! He was in possession of stolen items, which he likely stole himself unless you're gullible and desperate enough to believe his story. Odd how he just happened to have a woman's gold watch on him and his neighbor's apartment just happened to have been broken into and one stolen very recently before. The rest of your post isn't even worth responding to.

 

[Bill Williams]

Well I can tell you I never broke into a school and spent the night there. I can also tell you I've never broken into someone's apartment and then confronted them with a knife when I was detected. And I certainly was never caught with stolen property from a law office which had been broken into a few days prior.

But yeah, I do recall a time I climbed over a fence and went into someone else's property to retrieve a baseball hit to far, so you got me there.

It is bizarre the way the Knox-haters have defended Rudy, the real killer and rapist, over the years. Remember, this is the guy who lied when he said he had been in the cottage "on a date" with the victim, which (continuing his self-serving lies) was his explanation for his DNA in her vagina.

The Nencini court had accepted one of his lies as true.... his claim that Knox had arrived in the middle of this date, knocking on the very door she had a key to so that the victim had had to let her in. Nencini said that it was true that Rudy had heard a row over rent money break out.

Not a Satanic rite, not a sex game gone wrong, not a dispute over household cleanliness.... Nencini had put aside all those former judicial truths to substitute his own, based on no one but Rudy.

Do lurkers here wonder how this case had gone off the rails from 2007 to 2015? Yet Vixen pins her defence of the real killer on the judicial truth that Rudy had never been charged with burglary, despite being found with a "burglary kit" in his posession in places he'd actually broken into.

This is how the guilter-nutters have rolled all these years. And if it takes defending the killer, so be it.

 

[Mr Fied]

It's always confused me as to why at least 3 male profiles were found on the bra-clasp and nowhere else at the crime scene. It seems that if the traces were NOT due to contamination there would have to be at least 3 different male assailants attacking Meredith with the sole interest of seizing the bra-clasp and having no interest or interaction with anything else in the room. Why didn't these 3 anonymous assailants not just ask Meredith for her bra-clasp and spare the poor girls life since that it seems was all they were interested in? Once the 3 anonymous assailants did get the clasp, what did they do with it except leave their traces all over it? Did they perform a little ritual before burying the bra-clasp under the rug in Meredith's room? OMG! it's got to be the masons! Hey, I've an idea! Why don't we ask Naseer (The man from Atlan) to ask the now archived Gabriella Carlizzi who can then contact Meredith who can.....Nah! I've got a better idea, it's CONTAMINATION right?

Hoots

I wonder if all the male scenes of crime and lab workers were tested we might get 3 DNA matches?

 

[bagels]

Sorry to break it to you but Guede has no criminal record of trespassing or breaking in.

No point reading any further.

As for your last sentence...say no more.

If that's what you want to believe

 

[Stacyhs]

If that's what you want to believe

More like "if that's what you need to believe".

 

[NotEvenWrong]

But we're way, way beyond the realms of "typos" when it comes to "weight x velocity equals distance travelled of a thrown inanimate object" LMAO

Is this real life?

Vixen...…. have you considered the possibility that you just string scientific sounding words together (that maybe you saw on a TV show one time) to sound "sciencey", but you don't actually understand what they mean? Like, these clearly aren't typos. It's you trying to sound authoritative on things you have no knowledge or experience in.

Relatedly, do you think this may be why you think Amanda and Raffaele are somehow still guilty despite all the scientific experts, Supreme Court, ECHR, etc. finding they are not? Like perhaps the experts know more than you, the person who gets her knowledge from TV shows? Have you considered that possibility....?

 

[NotEvenWrong]

I go back and forth between being sure Vixen's a troll and think "haha look at the troll no way she actually believes that nice work Vixen." and thinking "holy crap Vixen actually believes that". Not sure what the truth is. Vixen is straight twilight zone sometimes. She's clearly invested in this that's the only for sure thing. 12 years is a looong time to keep up a troll though.

 

[whoanellie]

Is this real life?

Vixen...…. have you considered the possibility that you just string scientific sounding words together (that maybe you saw on a TV show one time) to sound "sciencey", but you don't actually understand what they mean? Like, these clearly aren't typos. It's you trying to sound authoritative on things you have no knowledge or experience in.

Relatedly, do you think this may be why you think Amanda and Raffaele are somehow still guilty despite all the scientific experts, Supreme Court, ECHR, etc. finding they are not? Like perhaps the experts know more than you, the person who gets her knowledge from TV shows? Have you considered that possibility....?

I go back and forth between being sure Vixen's a troll and think "haha look at the troll no way she actually believes that nice work Vixen." and thinking "holy crap Vixen actually believes that". Not sure what the truth is. Vixen is straight twilight zone sometimes. She's clearly invested in this that's the only for sure thing. 12 years is a looong time to keep up a troll though.

I'm quite certain Vixen is for real. She believes that she has "great and unmatched wisdom". Capeesh? Kemo sabe?

 

[Vixen]

Well I can tell you I never broke into a school and spent the night there. I can also tell you I've never broken into someone's apartment and then confronted them with a knife when I was detected. And I certainly was never caught with stolen property from a law office which had been broken into a few days prior.

But yeah, I do recall a time I climbed over a fence and went into someone else's property to retrieve a baseball hit to far, so you got me there.

Ah, so you, too 'have a history of trespassing'.

 

[Vixen]

By the way Vixen, what is 134 mpk?

Erratum That should read 'kph'.