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Sorry, but writing-wise it reads like just some crappy trip report from Junák (old communistic magazine for young people). Especially that set of adjectives he used was popular back then.


Fun fact: His father is/was Czech and Andre grew up in your country where he hated that stuff like Junák with a passion. After the iron wall came down he went to the US, married rich and got US citizenship. Just to come to hate that stuff even more and become a poor globetrotting internationalist writer and reporter.
 
You mean like claiming that a non-Western country which is giving free money to African countries is acting like a colonial power (without quotes) but Western countries which take money/value out of African countries, even enslaving and otherwise brutally oppressing the population, is just "colonialism" (with quotes)?


It's almost cute how these people expect that others buy the propaganda they have been soaked in since birth, isn't it?
 
Protesters plan to topple HK government, new manifesto for provisional government recited, senior government officials to be dimissed

Sounds like they came up with it all by themselves :rolleyes::

Manifesto said:
In the development of human civilisation, it is inevitable for a dysfunctional institution to be abolished and replaced by a better one. This is how progress is made. If a government is not of the people, by the people, for the people, then it is inevitable that the people will establish a government of the people. The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government has proved itself to be not of the people, by the people, for the people. We hereby declare the establishment of the Provisional Government of Hong Kong.

‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ We have always identified with this inviolable principle of truth. The government and the legislature are established by the people to ensure that their rights will be protected against encroachment. All the powers of the government are derived from the people. If a government violates this principle, then the people have an absolute right to abolish it and establish a new one. [...]
 
Yes, because if there's one thing that colonial powers are known to do it is to write off debts they are owned.



You mean like claiming that a non-Western country which is giving free money to African countries is acting like a colonial power (without quotes) but Western countries which take money/value out of African countries, even enslaving and otherwise brutally oppressing the population, is just "colonialism" (with quotes)?


You never met a Marxist Dictatorship you did not like.
(Granted, CHina is pretty much a CINO country..Communist In Name Only) but I think the point still holds.
 
Never forget that in the 1930 and 40's we heard a lot from certain idiots about how wonderful job Uncle Joe was doing in Russia....
 
Ah, money, greater than morals.

Here's the NBA desperately trying to have it both ways.


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...uston-rockets-regrettable-pro-democracy-tweet

Blizzard following the NBA's brave moral stand, banning a pro Hearthstone player and revoking his prize money after making pro Hong Kong statements on the video stream.

https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/9254/blizzard-has-removed-blitzchung-from-grandmasters-and-banned-him-from-competing-in-hearthstone-following-his-on-stream-hong-kong-protest
 
Fun fact: His father is/was Czech and Andre grew up in your country where he hated that stuff like Junák with a passion. After the iron wall came down he went to the US, married rich and got US citizenship. Just to come to hate that stuff even more and become a poor globetrotting internationalist writer and reporter.

Doesn't explain why he is writing like communistic writer from 50s pro-KGB Putin and dictatorship of China posts and talkin about wonderful socialistic realism. (They are what he allegedly hates...)
 
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I've been living in Hong Kong for the last 12 years, amazed I only just saw this thread.

I live in Wan Chai on Hennessy Road, the main thoroughfare between Admiralty and Central, where the majority of the protest marches take place. I now regularly see tear gas and riot police on the street below my apartment.

Anyone has any questions on the situation, feel free to ask, there is too much to write in one go.

In the last few weeks the violence and vandalism from the protesters have ramped up a stage, to the point that when Carrie Lam introduced an anti mask law on Friday night, the protesters rampaged across the city, vandalising MTR (subway train) stations, China-associated banks and businesses, and pro-Beijing offices. The damage was so extensive, the entire MTR system shut down on Saturday, which has never happened in 40 years, and is only just now getting back to normal.

Despite this unpleasantness, the majority of the HK population seem to still broadly support the protesters, as they feel the government has not done enough to meet their demands, and that the Occupy movement from 2014 showed that peaceful protests doesn't work.

The worry over Tanks crossing the border and entering the streets of HK was prevalent in the first few weeks, but now has receded, as the vague threats from the central Chinese government have come up empty. China cannot simply do another Tiananmen square these days, it still needs to be seen as a responsible global player, its entire belt and road initiative depends on it.

The police force that used to be considered Asia's finest is now hated and distrusted. This is because for many weeks they have been the only visible face of the government, and have hence borne the brunt of the protesters ire. They are under tremendous pressure, have not been trained for the situation and individuals have slipped up many times, using excessive force. An independent inquiry into police actions is now the top demand of the protesters, supported by over 80% of the population surveyed.

But the root cause of this all is the lack of democracy. This is a fundamentally grass roots movement that has emerged due to a population finally getting tired of an incompetent and unaccountable government that doesn't represent its people's interests, but instead the interests of big business and property developers, and by extension the Central Chinese government. The HK people want to be able to vote for a government that represents them by universal suffrage, as promised in the Basic Law that was established after the 1997 handover.

It has reached a tipping point now where the government will have to make some serious reforms in order to resolve the unrest, the current policy of suppressing protests has not worked and makes things worse. There is currently no motivation on behalf of the protesters to stop, so the unrest will continue.
 
Doesn't explain why he is writing like communistic writer from 50s pro-KGB Putin and dictatorship of China posts and talkin about wonderful socialistic realism. (They are what he allegedly hates...)

Some people just want to see the world get stomped by a boot, forever.
 
I've been living in Hong Kong for the last 12 years, amazed I only just saw this thread.

I live in Wan Chai on Hennessy Road, the main thoroughfare between Admiralty and Central, where the majority of the protest marches take place. I now regularly see tear gas and riot police on the street below my apartment.

Anyone has any questions on the situation, feel free to ask, there is too much to write in one go.

In the last few weeks the violence and vandalism from the protesters have ramped up a stage, to the point that when Carrie Lam introduced an anti mask law on Friday night, the protesters rampaged across the city, vandalising MTR (subway train) stations, China-associated banks and businesses, and pro-Beijing offices. The damage was so extensive, the entire MTR system shut down on Saturday, which has never happened in 40 years, and is only just now getting back to normal.

Despite this unpleasantness, the majority of the HK population seem to still broadly support the protesters, as they feel the government has not done enough to meet their demands, and that the Occupy movement from 2014 showed that peaceful protests doesn't work.

The worry over Tanks crossing the border and entering the streets of HK was prevalent in the first few weeks, but now has receded, as the vague threats from the central Chinese government have come up empty. China cannot simply do another Tiananmen square these days, it still needs to be seen as a responsible global player, its entire belt and road initiative depends on it.

The police force that used to be considered Asia's finest is now hated and distrusted. This is because for many weeks they have been the only visible face of the government, and have hence borne the brunt of the protesters ire. They are under tremendous pressure, have not been trained for the situation and individuals have slipped up many times, using excessive force. An independent inquiry into police actions is now the top demand of the protesters, supported by over 80% of the population surveyed.

But the root cause of this all is the lack of democracy. This is a fundamentally grass roots movement that has emerged due to a population finally getting tired of an incompetent and unaccountable government that doesn't represent its people's interests, but instead the interests of big business and property developers, and by extension the Central Chinese government. The HK people want to be able to vote for a government that represents them by universal suffrage, as promised in the Basic Law that was established after the 1997 handover.

It has reached a tipping point now where the government will have to make some serious reforms in order to resolve the unrest, the current policy of suppressing protests has not worked and makes things worse. There is currently no motivation on behalf of the protesters to stop, so the unrest will continue.

Question is how far does this extend beyond Hong Kong.
If it does extend beyond Hong Kong, then the Mandate Of Heaven for the current government might be in a little trouble...
 
Doesn't explain why he is writing like communistic writer from 50s pro-KGB Putin and dictatorship of China posts and talkin about wonderful socialistic realism. (They are what he allegedly hates...)

Which one are you talking about? We have two of them here who fit that description....
 
Question is how far does this extend beyond Hong Kong.
If it does extend beyond Hong Kong, then the Mandate Of Heaven for the current government might be in a little trouble...

At the moment any unrest is very tightly focused in Hong Kong itself. There have been vague reports of unrest in China before, but very few and far between and very hard to get any real information due to the censorship. The ones that you do hear about are protests against local councils or politicians due to corruption, which the government deems appropriate to report on, as it shows it cares about corruption issues. But these are extremely localised and focused on issues local to that specific town or village.

China is facing a few problems which their government needs to deal with. The most important long term is the fallout from their one child policy. The worry is that there are simply not going to be enough younger people working to support the size of their aging population. The one child policy was officially ended in just 2015, but is embedded culturally. Its hard to see how they are going to deal with that.

Another is fallout from the swine flu epidemic. Pork is an absolutely fundamental part of the Chinese diet, and in a bid to control the disease many pork farms have been closed, causing an extreme shortage and a huge price increase. July pork prices went up by 20%, then in August up by 50%!

However, neither of these have yet caused any major issues for the Central government, who very tightly control what is reported on.

Interestingly, just sitting in a Hennessy Road coffee shop as I write this, and can clearly see "Revolution is coming" graffiti on a nearby wall. And "**** the Popo" spray-painted on a pedestrian crossing. Make of that what you will.
 

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