2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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The fact that Biden is polling ahead of Trump in Texas makes a pretty strong argument for Biden. Most of the rest are in striking distance but not ahead going into the primaries. If Biden were to win Texas, he would be right at 270 without winning any Obama states that went for Trump in 2016. If he took Texas and Pennsylvania it would be Trump's destruction. Biden is also polling ahead of Trump in Florida.
 
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The fact that Biden is polling ahead of Trump in Texas makes a pretty strong argument for Biden. Most of the rest are in striking distance but not ahead going into the primaries. If Biden were to win Texas, he would be right at 270 without winning any Obama states that went for Trump in 2016. If he took Texas and Pennsylvania it would be Trump's destruction. Biden is also polling ahead of Trump in Florida.

This is why Trump is doing everything he can to ensure he's not facing Biden in the general. It's also why he's the safe bet for the Democrats.
 
I'm not concerned about Bernie's heart attack or a candidates age/health in general.

Even if he were elected and died shortly after in office, he would have picked a VP with similar values.

The only candidates you'd have to worry about are those who pick their VP solely based on strategic vote getting rather than because of shared ideology.
 
I'm not concerned about Bernie's heart attack or a candidates age/health in general.

Even if he were elected and died shortly after in office, he would have picked a VP with similar values.

The only candidates you'd have to worry about are those who pick their VP solely based on strategic vote getting rather than because of shared ideology.

Nah. For sure the VP's ideology is going to be a close enough match regardless. If there's one thing you should absolutely have learned from the Hillary campaign, it's that doubling down on redundant votes is a terrible strategy.
 
It might even help a progressive movement if Sanders dies while in office, preferably towards the end of the term. He will choose his VP wisely.
 
Naomi Klein was on CSPAN this morning. She pointed out the fact Biden's son was on the board of an oil company doesn't bode well for addressing climate change.

From her Twitter Account:
Biden just confirmed he opposes banning fracking on the state and national level. A measure Germany and France introduced long ago.

The fact that his fundraiser tomorrow night is put on by an executive up to his eyeballs in fracked gas is totally unrelated.
 
Professor Allan Lichtman, who successfully predicted the last 9 presidential elections, says forget about the polls completely.

Earlier this year he urged Democrats to "grow a spine" and move forward with impeachment proceedings.

At the time his "13 keys" to the White House seemed to predict a Republican win in 2020.

The 13 Keys to the White House said:
Party Mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections.
Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.
Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.
Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.
Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
Foreign/military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.
Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.
Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.
Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.


Perhaps not very profound at first glance, but he's the first I've seen who's arranged these factors into some kind of weighted points system. Could be a bunch of Monday morning analysis, but it can't be worse than just looking at the polls can it? :D

He wants Democrats to drop the ineffectual "inquiry" and go straight to impeachment.

 
I think you can figure out the answer on your own. Maybe start over and actually listen to Klein. It's free access.

Nevermind. I misunderstood the production numbers. Way more natural gas comes from fracking, but shale oil is a large percent of US oil.
 
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Professor Allan Lichtman, who successfully predicted the last 9 presidential elections, says forget about the polls completely.

Earlier this year he urged Democrats to "grow a spine" and move forward with impeachment proceedings.

At the time his "13 keys" to the White House seemed to predict a Republican win in 2020.


Perhaps not very profound at first glance, but he's the first I've seen who's arranged these factors into some kind of weighted points system. Could be a bunch of Monday morning analysis, but it can't be worse than just looking at the polls can it? :D

He wants Democrats to drop the ineffectual "inquiry" and go straight to impeachment.


Really, I don’t see much interesting here in terms of his credentials or his advice. I mean, predicting 9 of the previous elections really just means he predicted Trump would win. Otherwise he is probably not that different from all the other pundits. And surely pointing out that a major scandal could prevent a president winning an election is hardly profound.
 
Really, I don’t see much interesting here in terms of his credentials or his advice. I mean, predicting 9 of the previous elections really just means he predicted Trump would win. Otherwise he is probably not that different from all the other pundits. And surely pointing out that a major scandal could prevent a president winning an election is hardly profound.

There's a pretty obvious "Texas sharpshooter" fallacy going on here. He does not claim that his formula predicted the events before they happened. He came up with a formula that explains things after the fact. I am particularly suspicious that at least according to the article, there is no weighting applied to any of the 13 factors; each is apparently equally significant. Note especially that he does have some fairly fuzzy categories in there, like significant scandal, charisma of both candidates, etc.

There are any number of simple factors one could come up with to predict the results of the last X elections. Start with:

1. All other things equal there is a strong tendency for the party in power to remain in power for 8 years and then turn over the White House to the party out of power.
2. Incumbent presidents always win re-election (provided they were originally elected) unless the economy goes into recession in the last year or so of their term, or they took office as the result of a major scandal.
3. If there is no incumbent president running, the party out of power will win unless their candidate is filmed riding around in a tank.

Explains every election since 1956. Eisenhower was an incumbent in 1956 with no recent recession. In 1960, there was no incumbent running and so the party out of power (Democrats and JFK) took over. LBJ wins on the 8 years of power rule with no recession. 1968 no incumbent, so turnover to the Republicans. 1972, incumbent wins. 1976, incumbent took office as the result of a major scandal, plus 8-year rule. 1980 incumbent loses due to late-term recession. 1984 incumbent wins. 1988, well, you do have the tank. 1992, recession plus pressure from the usual 8-year turnover. 1996 incumbent. 2000 8th year, 2004 incumbent 2008 8th year, 2012 incumbent, 2016 8th year.

ETA: Obviously the tank bit is a joke, but it would not be too hard to come up with some sort of oddball but reasonable criterion that explains 1988 but does not apply to the other years.
 
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There's a pretty obvious "Texas sharpshooter" fallacy going on here. He does not claim that his formula predicted the events before they happened. He came up with a formula that explains things after the fact. I am particularly suspicious that at least according to the article, there is no weighting applied to any of the 13 factors; each is apparently equally significant. Note especially that he does have some fairly fuzzy categories in there, like significant scandal, charisma of both candidates, etc.

There are any number of simple factors one could come up with to predict the results of the last X elections. Start with:

1. All other things equal there is a strong tendency for the party in power to remain in power for 8 years and then turn over the White House to the party out of power.
2. Incumbent presidents always win re-election (provided they were originally elected) unless the economy goes into recession in the last year or so of their term, or they took office as the result of a major scandal.
3. If there is no incumbent president running, the party out of power will win unless their candidate is filmed riding around in a tank.

Explains every election since 1956. Eisenhower was an incumbent in 1956 with no recent recession. In 1960, there was no incumbent running and so the party out of power (Democrats and JFK) took over. LBJ wins on the 8 years of power rule with no recession. 1968 no incumbent, so turnover to the Republicans. 1972, incumbent wins. 1976, incumbent took office as the result of a major scandal, plus 8-year rule. 1980 incumbent loses due to late-term recession. 1984 incumbent wins. 1988, well, you do have the tank. 1992, recession plus pressure from the usual 8-year turnover. 1996 incumbent. 2000 8th year, 2004 incumbent 2008 8th year, 2012 incumbent, 2016 8th year.

ETA: Obviously the tank bit is a joke, but it would not be too hard to come up with some sort of oddball but reasonable criterion that explains 1988 but does not apply to the other years.

Indeed we can probably reduce it to economy or scandal. And with the caveat that either of the two has to be enough of a factor. Easy!
 
Elizabeth Warren calls out Zuckerberg over new Facebook ad policies after his meeting with Trump

I'm mildly surprised that I haven't seen more of the Democratic candidates hammer at this.
It only came out yesterday.

Here’s what we do know: Trump did indeed meet with Zuckerberg on Sept. 19 in Washington, D.C. We don’t know what they talked about. Something we do know, however, is that on Sept. 24, Facebook shared it would not fact check or remove ad content by politicians, even if said content violated Facebook’s rules. Basically: Even if it’s false, that ad can stay up on Facebook, as long as a politician bought it.

Hmm. That’s some ... interesting timing, to say the least., especially considering we already know Trump’s re-election campaign has dropped serious money to reach potential voters on Facebook. How serious? As Warren suggests in her thread, about $1 million per week. If we want to look at recent numbers on the impeachment, for example, Trump’s campaign is spending an astounding $2 million per week on Facebook ads alone.

That's some scary ****. It looks like Zuckerberg happily accepted millions from Trump for specious ads and got a twofur, Zuck doesn't want to see Warren elected because she's a threat to his empire.
 
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