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God's Omniscience

Anyway, what is all the "God can't break promises" nonsense anyway (see OP)? If God can allow an innocent child to suffer from cancer in the name of some greater good then surely this greater good would justify him to telling a fib or two?
 
God said Adam would die the DAY he ate the fruit.

maybe give more of an influential argument with a quote because I have no idea what your referring to.

No, I would rather blame my mistakes on the devil, like God does.

God doesn't make mistakes. And God cannot sin.

Do you make mistakes, and do you sin? Yes. If you blame satan does that change that you make mistakes and sin? No.
 
Why are heaven and hell like a tree?

He seems to be leafing the answer as an exercise, or maybe Iacchus hasn't trunk through this whole analogy. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the confusion stems from the fact that Iacchus is barking mad. Time for me to bough out of this conversation.
 
God said Adam would die the DAY he ate the fruit.
A matter of translation. In some translations it's the same day, which is obviously a lie unless God has very long days, in others God simply states that he will die, which is as true as if I'd state that you all will die (sooner or later).
I may as well argue with the Brothers Grimm about the true story of Rapunzel.
That would be very interesting! Unfortunately for us, the story of Rapunzel is not considered to be true by too many people, and certainly no one posting here. Also, I believe the interpretations would be more limited and it isn't really as interesting philosophically. But why not?
 
I give up, Iacchus. Why are heaven and hell like a tree?
Well, on the one hand you have the tree of life, and on the other, you have the tree of knowledge. Whereas a tree draws its sustenance from the ether above (sunlight), and the decadence and decay (microbes) from the soil below. Neither should we forget that this whole episode (of man) transpired in God's little orchard, commonly referred to as the Garden of Eden. So, in effect, man represents the fallen fruit of the tree. Indeed, what is the very first commandment that God issues to Adam and Eve? ... "Be fruitful and multiply." ~ Genesis 1:28
 
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He seems to be leafing the answer as an exercise, or maybe Iacchus hasn't trunk through this whole analogy. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the confusion stems from the fact that Iacchus is barking mad. Time for me to bough out of this conversation.
Yes, and the whole thing no doubt stems from the Universal seed which, God had planted. Meaning, the criteria for the known Universe or, blueprint, had already been determined beforehand.
 
maybe give more of an influential argument with a quote because I have no idea what your referring to.

Genesis 2:17 (KJV)
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

God doesn't make mistakes. And God cannot sin.

Then God asks us to do what he says, not what he does.
 
Well, on the one hand you have the tree of life, and on the other, you have the tree of knowledge. Whereas a tree draws its sustenance from the ether above (sunlight), and the decadence and decay (microbes) from the soil below. Neither should we forget that this whole episode (of man) transpired in God's little orchard, commonly referred to as the Garden of Eden. So, in effect, man represents the fallen fruit of the tree. Indeed, what is the very first commandment that God issues to Adam and Eve? ... "Be fruitful and multiply." ~ Genesis 1:28

I don't see how this explains how HEAVEN and HELL are like a tree.
 
The Judeao Christian God is all powerful and also consistent with His nature. There's lot's of thinks He can't do - like lie, fail a task, do evil etc.

God can't do evil? Then he is not omnipotent.

Indeed, the Book of Job was all about God not being bound by the same rules he lays down on us.

But aside from that, if God knew, before creating the universe, that, eventually, eventually, children would be raped to death, and still did it anyway then I claim that is evil.

And if God didn't know (which implies he is not omnipotent since omnipotence implies omniscience [though not the other way]) then OK, but as soon as Cain slew Able, he should have put a halt to it right there. Given children continue to be raped to death, I submit that by allowing it to go on, likewise he is evil.

And to those who say there's a greater good in allowing sovereign entities to practice free will on each other, I claim this is nonsense, and is simply evidence of evil in a "hands off" creator.
 
Perhaps you should read the earlier post I made that shows a bible verse which says that god creates evil.
Does God take God out of context? No. Yet it is possible to take God out of context. How so? Indeed, how could we learn of God otherwise?
 
Does God take God out of context? No. Yet it is possible to take God out of context. How so? Indeed, how could we learn of God otherwise?
I will once again request that you try to keep something at least resembling lucidity when replying to me as I hate trying to translate your "I do not know what I am saying so I will try and sound cryptic" into English.
There is no taking out of context in a verse that explicit save the confusion you are attempting to make of it. Also, are you implying that the only way a Christian can know their god is by being incorrect about him? Try rephrasing your gobbledegook into a pareable language so that people can understand your point.
 
those are not his errors, they are human errors. He created humans fully knowing they would error, and that he would flood the world, yet he did it anyways according to his purpose.
So god created us knowing full well that we would err and make mistakes, yet instead of "forgive and forget" (for which we believe is divine) he punishes by drowning and immolation. So your saying he created with the plan of drowning and burning us. Seems abit heartless does it not?

and the story with the chariots, it says "They could not" instead of "He could not"
So god could not help them to defeat the iron chariots? Or was that his plan?
 
I will once again request that you try to keep something at least resembling lucidity when replying to me as I hate trying to translate your "I do not know what I am saying so I will try and sound cryptic" into English.
There is no taking out of context in a verse that explicit save the confusion you are attempting to make of it. Also, are you implying that the only way a Christian can know their god is by being incorrect about him? Try rephrasing your gobbledegook into a pareable language so that people can understand your point.
Welcome to Iaachus. Argument by obfuscation.

He is a non-sequiter wraped in a smoke screen wraped in a warm chewy tortilla.
 
Also, are you implying that the only way a Christian can know their god is by being incorrect about him?
Oh, so you did "seem" to understand? Yes, how is it possible to know of "some-thing," unless it were contrasted with "no-thing." How is it possible to learn of God (without being God ourselves that is), except by means of His absence? ...

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. ~ Genesis 3:22-23
 
Oh, so you did "seem" to understand. Yes, how is it possible to know of "some-thing," unless it were contrasted with "no-thing." How is it possible to learn of God (without being God ourselves), except by means of His absence? ...
Wonderful! Now you finally understand the argument against your notion that god is everywhere. You have, in your world-view, no "no god" condition to compare to...

...or does this mean you have finally changed one of your views? Will you be updating your online book to correspond to your new knowledge?
 

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