Cont: Brexit: Now What? Magic 8 Ball's up

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Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Small footnote, there is no such thing as UK law. Scots Law and Law of England and Wales are 2 equal and separate things.
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Not quite, AIUI. There are three jurisdictions: England and Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland. Each have their own judicial systems, with that of England and Wales and Northern Ireland being fairly similar to each other, and that of Scotland being quite different. But there are laws that cover the entirety of the UK, most notably constitutional law, which is what is being decided here. The UK Supreme Court has jurisdiction over all three UK jurisdictions.

That said, I'm also given to understand that there is a certain degree of deference within the UK Supreme Court. There is a Northern Irish judge and two Scottish judges, and on matters that would affect the laws of those jurisdictions the other judges (however many are sitting for any particular case) will defer to the judges from those countries.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Not quite, AIUI. There are three jurisdictions: England and Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland. Each have their own judicial systems, with that of England and Wales and Northern Ireland being fairly similar to each other, and that of Scotland being quite different. But there are laws that cover the entirety of the UK, most notably constitutional law, which is what is being decided here. The UK Supreme Court has jurisdiction over all three UK jurisdictions.

That said, I'm also given to understand that there is a certain degree of deference within the UK Supreme Court. There is a Northern Irish judge and two Scottish judges, and on matters that would affect the laws of those jurisdictions the other judges (however many are sitting for any particular case) will defer to the judges from those countries.
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The UK Supreme Court has jurisdiction yes, but it still applies the laws of the relevant nation. So the Scottish case which is appealed will be judged under Scots law in the Supreme Court and the English case being appealed will be judged under EAW Law.

There are many laws which apply UK wide but there is no UK legal system and no UK law only Scottish law, NI Law and EAW Law.
 
dudalb said:
Way things are going Boris may go down as the worst PM since Lord North...you know the PM from the early 1770's to 1781 who brought on the American Revolution, and them managed to lose the Revolutionary War.....

On a minor note, we can add Marvel Comic Charecters to the long list of things Boris knows nothing about.....
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BoJo couldn't even get fired.
 
quadraginta said:
I wonder how many part-time jobs the environs surrounding most universities can provide?

Enough for every student that might be in need of one?
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That would depend on the location of the college, the demand for skills, at cetera.
 
mkg said:
Oh, I did. Your point?
Lothian said that WTO required border checks. It doesn't. It's not rocket science.
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If no one complains fine. If anyone complains the WTO will require border checks. What do you think the chances are that the businesses along the 310 mile border in NI will be happy with their customers buying stuff ~20% cheaper from the other side of the border. Perhaps it will be perfectly self cancelling and every single one will be happy.
 
Negotiations are going at an incredible

"We have now shared in written form a series of confidential technical non-papers which reflect the ideas the UK has been putting forward."

Well that will clear everything up. Sounds like we've shared some stuff Johnson wrote on the back of a beer mat.
 
Worm said:
what on earth is a 'non-paper'?
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Presumably something other than a "paper". I think "paper" in this context is a technical term, relating to a type of a government document and not the actual material we write on.

Newspaper is sometimes abberviated into "paper", something of that nature, I think.

Here's the link to the story:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49753413

McHrozni
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
The UK Supreme Court has jurisdiction yes, but it still applies the laws of the relevant nation. So the Scottish case which is appealed will be judged under Scots law in the Supreme Court and the English case being appealed will be judged under EAW Law.

There are many laws which apply UK wide but there is no UK legal system and no UK law only Scottish law, NI Law and EAW Law.
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I didn't say there was a UK legal system, so it seems an odd point to try to correct me on.
 
Worm said:
what on earth is a 'non-paper'?
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Basically, what they're saying is that rather than submit the written proposals that they have been told there can be no negotiations without, they have written down the "ideas" that Johnson has been told are useless without written proposals.
 
Hmm.

non-paper
"A discussion paper which is not to form part of formal business, especially in the UN."

So, just some notes basically. Très useful.
 
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