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The Trump Presidency: Sweet/Sweat 16

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Norman Alexander said:
The replacement for Bolton was previously the...Hey, intern! Don't walk away, come over here. How would you like to be Secretary of State for the USA?
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Don't worry, I'm sure he'll do "a great job!".....until he crosses Trump. I'm already betting on a new NSA before the 2020 elections.
 
Norman Alexander said:
The replacement for Bolton was previously the...Hey, intern! Don't walk away, come over here. How would you like to be Secretary of State for the USA?
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Yeah, and President Trump worked for a long time with Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs at the State Department. I’m not convinced that last week he even knew the position existed and I am pretty sure he didn’t know who was in that post.

But the “genius” has to lay claim to knowing everything and everyone.
 
And who do we think is being referred to here:
The whistleblower complaint that has triggered a tense showdown between the U.S. intelligence community and Congress involves President Trump’s communications with a foreign leader, according to two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

Trump’s interaction with the foreign leader included a “promise” that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community, said the former officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...651aa2-da60-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html
 
dudalb said:
Not an Iran hawk, but also think that Iran gets cut a bit too much slack around here. IMHO morally, little to choose between Iran and Saudi, except that Iran seems to have a slightly better PR machine, and is smart enough to conduct it's killings on the quiet.
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As far as I can tell Saudi Arabia is a far more repressive regime than Iran. In terms of foreign meddling, Iran is number one on a list of 3 state sponsors of terrorism. (The other two countries are Sudan and North Korea.) Saudi Arabia gets a pass although IMO they certainly do their bit to export terrorism/extremism.
 
Ladewig said:
Yeah, and President Trump worked for a long time with Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs at the State Department. I’m not convinced that last week he even knew the position existed and I am pretty sure he didn’t know who was in that post.
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I don't know, the title sounds like someone who was planted in the State Department to keep an eye on the agency. I read somewhere Trump has numerous plants in the bureaucracy.
 
Ladewig said:
Yeah, and President Trump worked for a long time with Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs at the State Department. I’m not convinced that last week he even knew the position existed and I am pretty sure he didn’t know who was in that post.

But the “genius” has to lay claim to knowing everything and everyone.
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He has a pattern... Anyone he hires is someone he's worked with for a long time and who's done a yugely wonderful job at ____________. Anyone who he supports for election, in no particular order, is: big supporter of LEOs and our military and helping to fight the battle to reform immigration.

Every single time!
 
Minoosh said:
As far as I can tell Saudi Arabia is a far more repressive regime than Iran. In terms of foreign meddling, Iran is number one on a list of 3 state sponsors of terrorism. (The other two countries are Sudan and North Korea.) Saudi Arabia gets a pass although IMO they certainly do their bit to export terrorism/extremism.
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Absolutely!

They fund and export Wahhabism and oppression of women by far exceeds that of Iran.
 
Minoosh said:
I don't know, the title sounds like someone who was planted in the State Department to keep an eye on the agency. I read somewhere Trump has numerous plants in the bureaucracy.
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And another box on the dictator checklist gets ticked off.
 
This whistleblower kerfuffle is getting interesting. How it's shaping up thus far...

On a phone call to a foreign leader, Trump makes a "promise" that alarms an intelligence official who had access to the call transcript (if not audio, we might wonder). The latter reports it to the IG, who deems the complaint credible and urgent, and then forwards it to the (acting) DNI, as prescribed by black letter law. The latter is then to inform the House Intelligence Committee within 7 days. But the acting DNI instead consults with the Justice Department, which agency is not permitted to be involved. Moreover, the White House may have been brought into the loop as well. A request by Adam Schiff for the complaint was ignored, and tomorrow (Thursday) the acting DNI is supposed to appear before the HIC.

The whistleblower laws are very clear, but the Barr JD could be glomming onto one clause which states something to the effect that the IG (? memory hazy here) is not subject to oversight by the Justice Dep't, which they might be using to twist to some new interpretation.

The foregoing is my flawed recollection after seeing this covered by Lawrence O'Donnell.

It sure looks like some number of Departments have been corrupted and are acting to shield a POTUS who is a clear security risk/threat.

One mooted motivation: Trump could have promised Putin normalized relations during the call in which aid to fight Russian wildfires was discussed, in return for help in the next election. A theory, to be sure, but well within the bounds of possibility. Trump will certainly be desperate to not lose in 2020, because of the statute of limitations having not run out on some of his shenanigans, particularly the campaign contribution business Cohen is currently doing time for.
 
Minoosh said:
As far as I can tell Saudi Arabia is a far more repressive regime than Iran. In terms of foreign meddling, Iran is number one on a list of 3 state sponsors of terrorism. (The other two countries are Sudan and North Korea.) Saudi Arabia gets a pass although IMO they certainly do their bit to export terrorism/extremism.
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Not only do they get a pass, Trump can't sell them enough hi tech weapons.
 
Lurch said:
This whistleblower kerfuffle is getting interesting. How it's shaping up thus far...

On a phone call to a foreign leader, Trump makes a "promise" that alarms an intelligence official who had access to the call transcript (if not audio, we might wonder). The latter reports it to the IG, who deems the complaint credible and urgent, and then forwards it to the (acting) DNI, as prescribed by black letter law. The latter is then to inform the House Intelligence Committee within 7 days. But the acting DNI instead consults with the Justice Department, which agency is not permitted to be involved. Moreover, the White House may have been brought into the loop as well. A request by Adam Schiff for the complaint was ignored, and tomorrow (Thursday) the acting DNI is supposed to appear before the HIC.

The whistleblower laws are very clear, but the Barr JD could be glomming onto one clause which states something to the effect that the IG (? memory hazy here) is not subject to oversight by the Justice Dep't, which they might be using to twist to some new interpretation.

The foregoing is my flawed recollection after seeing this covered by Lawrence O'Donnell.

It sure looks like some number of Departments have been corrupted and are acting to shield a POTUS who is a clear security risk/threat.

One mooted motivation: Trump could have promised Putin normalized relations during the call in which aid to fight Russian wildfires was discussed, in return for help in the next election. A theory, to be sure, but well within the bounds of possibility. Trump will certainly be desperate to not lose in 2020, because of the statute of limitations having not run out on some of his shenanigans, particularly the campaign contribution business Cohen is currently doing time for.
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Yeah. The more I reading about this story... This could be huge. Could be. I've said those words several times now and numbnuts is still there.
 
Bob001 said:
And who do we think is being referred to here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...651aa2-da60-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html
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If we're just speculating for fun, here's my guess: The foreign leader is Erdogan, and Trump's promise was to help him circumvent the US legal arms sales prohibition currently blocking the F-35 sale to Turkey, in exchange for Erdogan publicly swearing off his S400 missile deal with Russia. Perhaps even with a sweetener of assistance in arresting and deporting Gulen into Turkish custody.
 
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Minoosh said:
As far as I can tell Saudi Arabia is a far more repressive regime than Iran. In terms of foreign meddling, Iran is number one on a list of 3 state sponsors of terrorism. (The other two countries are Sudan and North Korea.) Saudi Arabia gets a pass although IMO they certainly do their bit to export terrorism/extremism.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-is-biggest-funder-of-terrorists-2152327.html

Saudi Arabia is the single biggest contributor to the funding of Islamic extremism and is unwilling to cut off the money supply, according to a leaked note from Hillary Clinton.

The US Secretary of State says in a secret memorandum that donors in the kingdom still "constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide" and that "it has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority".
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However, it is Saudi Arabia that receives the harshest assessment. The country from which Osama bin Laden and most of the 9/11 terrorists originated, according to Mrs Clinton, "a critical financial support base for al-Qa'ida, the Taliban, Lashkar-e-Toiba and other terrorist groups, including Hamas, which probably raise millions of dollars annually from Saudi sources, often during the Haj and Ramadan".
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