Cont: Man shot, killed by off-duty Dallas police officer who walked into wrong apartment p2

[ponderingturtle]

I told the judge quite honestly, that I was self employed and it would create a hardship on myself and others significant enough that might affect my impartiality to the proceedings. I was warned in no uncertain terms to abandon that line of thought.

Yea financial hardship isn't something that the judge would care about, and in that case wouldn't listen to. Hardship to others oddly played out OK, like being one of the few bus drivers for disabled kids as an example. And here the bus drivers will not let kids off the bus without the proper parent there to receive them. When my sister in law was sick she had to go to the door and wave to the bus driver because they wouldn't let me pick up my niece outside our house without her.

Or say taking care of a sick person would be a hardship the judge would accept too. But financial hardship was not acceptable. Fortunately my job pays me my salary for as long as I was called in.

 

[Drewbot]

I got thrown out of a jury, simply by shaking my head at a prosecutor as we were being led to the Jury room. The judge had asked everyone to rise and be silent as we went there, and the prosecutor was still talking. I shook my head at him as he ignored us and went on talking. When we came out the judge called on me and said it has been brought to my attention that you were signalling the attorney, I said, I was merely shaking my head in disgust at his ignoring your instructions to be quiet, and the Judge said 'Yes, I saw that too, but I have to excuse you from the jury'

Oh well, and YAY!!

 

[Thermal]

Yea financial hardship isn't something that the judge would care about, and in that case wouldn't listen to. Hardship to others oddly played out OK, like being one of the few bus drivers for disabled kids as an example. And here the bus drivers will not let kids off the bus without the proper parent there to receive them. When my sister in law was sick she had to go to the door and wave to the bus driver because they wouldn't let me pick up my niece outside our house without her.

Or say taking care of a sick person would be a hardship the judge would accept too. But financial hardship was not acceptable. Fortunately my job pays me my salary for as long as I was called in.

Right, and firefighters are exempt in Jersey too. I would have thought that saying 'if you starve my family out, I honestly won't be impartial' was an honest and candid truth that the court would agree with. Nope. Basically 'FU, we all get paid to drag our feet at your expense around here'. Trial went abt a week, and each side could have spelled out the relevant points in a one page brief we could have read on lunch break.

 

[Thermal]

I got thrown out of a jury, simply by shaking my head at a prosecutor as we were being led to the Jury room. The judge had asked everyone to rise and be silent as we went there, and the prosecutor was still talking. I shook my head at him as he ignored us and went on talking. When we came out the judge called on me and said it has been brought to my attention that you were signalling the attorney, I said, I was merely shaking my head in disgust at his ignoring your instructions to be quiet, and the Judge said 'Yes, I saw that too, but I have to excuse you from the jury'

Oh well, and YAY!!

Imma remember to flash gang signs at the prosecutor next time

 

[ponderingturtle]

Right, and firefighters are exempt in Jersey too. I would have thought that saying 'if you starve my family out, I honestly won't be impartial' was an honest and candid truth that the court would agree with. Nope. Basically 'FU, we all get paid to drag our feet at your expense around here'. Trial went abt a week, and each side could have spelled out the relevant points in a one page brief we could have read on lunch break.

Oh NY got rid of all automatic exemptions, it turned into any group with a serious lobbying power got exempted, so they threw that all out.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Thermal, just mention that your kid is in law school and so you have become very interested in the law as of late and you would be really excited to be on a case like this, are there any cases you should look up before they get started? (Deep breath)

Lawyers never get picked. I would imagine hyper interested lay folk who think they are lawyers rarely get picked either.

 

[Bob001]

Imma remember to flash gang signs at the prosecutor next time

Not even that. Just say "Great job!"

 

[Thermal]

Thermal, just mention that your kid is in law school and so you have become very interested in the law as of late and you would be really excited to be on a case like this, are there any cases you should look up before they get started? (Deep breath)

Lawyers never get picked. I would imagine hyper interested lay folk who think they are lawyers rarely get picked either.

Maybe I could just show them this thread, then? Though we might end up facing deportation proceedings.

 

[thines]

Jury duty.

I've been called once and served once, on a case of attempted murder in the second degree. It was quite interesting. But I must say I'm totally disgusted by those who try to slime their way out of a really important civic duty. SHAME ON YOU.

 

[Thermal]

I've been called once and served once, on a case of attempted murder in the second degree. It was quite interesting. But I must say I'm totally disgusted by those who try to slime their way out of a really important civic duty. SHAME ON YOU.

My civic duty is to keep the ******* electricity from being shut off. Some of us are hit harder than others by jury duty, so as long as there are willing jurors who are not hurt by these proceedings, let them have at it.

Eta: seriously, why would you even want people to serve who cannot afford to when there are legions who don't mind?

 

[plague311]

My civic duty is to keep the ******* electricity from being shut off. Some of us are hit harder than others by jury duty, so as long as there are willing jurors who are not hurt by these proceedings, let them have at it.

I got hit with jury duty once. I was working at this really terrible restaurant and it was actually more profitable for me to do jury duty than work. I was 21 and was an alternate so I ended up sitting through the most boring trial in the world and didn't even get a say. Sad face.

 

[Thermal]

I got hit with jury duty once. I was working at this really terrible restaurant and it was actually more profitable for me to do jury duty than work. I was 21 and was an alternate so I ended up sitting through the most boring trial in the world and didn't even get a say. Sad face.

If it pays, or an employer pays you, then great. In my beloved NJ, you receive a whopping $5/day. Cost me that much in gas to drive to the courthouse

 

[plague311]

If it pays, or an employer pays you, then great. In my beloved NJ, you receive a whopping $5/day. Cost me that much in gas to drive to the courthouse

In NoDak:

Jurors receive $25 for the first half day and $50 for serving the whole day. Jurors receive $50 for each additional day served. The mileage rate is .54 per mile. Coroner's inquest jurors get $10 a day.

I was making $7.50 at a part time job that I had to walk to so I actually came out a bit ahead.

$5 a day sucks.

 

[Thermal]

In NoDak:



I was making $7.50 at a part time job that I had to walk to so I actually came out a bit ahead.

$5 a day sucks.

Yeah, it can really hurt some people. In fairness, I usually do get delayed, but they are on my case again soon enough. For me, the problem extends to other contractors I work with and effectively shutting down a jobsite unless I pay someone else to do my job. Out of that scrumptious $5 per day. No bueno.

At: oh, and several customers could potentially sue me for non performance, the job I am on and the next in line also disrupted by my disappearance. I imagine they would lose, but who needs the agg?

 

[Elagabalus]

If it pays, or an employer pays you, then great. In my beloved NJ, you receive a whopping $5/day. Cost me that much in gas to drive to the courthouse

The Federal Grand Jury gig is $260 a day. Rental car, swanky 4 star hotel here I come.

 

[Thermal]

The Federal Grand Jury gig is $260 a day. Rental car, swanky 4 star hotel here I come.

If I had a job, I'd quit it for that kind of jingle. My ass would be making a federal case of that trial. $250 and I don't have to bleed? Heaven. Until they shut the aforementioned electricity off while I was dining at Ruth Chris'

 

[Ranb]

I've been told it was because I'm former military, apparently neither prosecutors nor defense attorneys like us on juries but I have no idea how true that is.

Served on five juries; I'm retired military. But retired military are as common as flies where I live. They don't want to limit their jury pool that much.

Ranb

 

[Bob001]

The Federal Grand Jury gig is $260 a day. Rental car, swanky 4 star hotel here I come.

You sure? Here's what the court web site says:

Federal jurors are paid $50 a day. Jurors can receive up to $60 a day after serving 45 days on a grand jury. (Employees of the federal government are paid their regular salary in lieu of this fee.) Jurors also are reimbursed for reasonable transportation expenses and parking fees. Jurors also receive a subsistence allowance covering their meals and lodging if they are required to stay overnight.

https://www.uscourts.gov/services-forms/jury-service/juror-pay

And it's hard to think of circumstances where a grand jury (as opposed to a trial jury) would have to stay in a hotel.

 

[Ranb]

Kind of weird things to point out in this article:

The site will not allow me to read the article unless I turn off my ad block.

In TX does the perp have a duty to retreat? I'm thinking that the defense will paint a picture of Guyger being allowed to be at the wrong door, therefore she had no duty to retreat. I would also guess that the prosecution would try to do the opposite?

 

[Bob001]

The site will not allow me to read the article unless I turn off my ad block.

In TX does the perp have a duty to retreat? I'm thinking that the defense will paint a picture of Guyger being allowed to be at the wrong door, therefore she had no duty to retreat. I would also guess that the prosecution would try to do the opposite?

She wasn't just at the wrong door, she entered the wrong home under questionable circumstances. That's harder to justify in itself, even before she killed the lawful resident.