Cont: Brexit: Now What? Magic 8 Ball's up

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dudalb said:
How long until the Queen raised her standard at Oxford?:D
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You mean that Boris is on the side of Parliament in rebellion against Liz? That seems most implausible. This time it may be the Crown and parliament who will be acting together in rebellion against an "evil counsellor" who presumes to deceive Her Majesty in order to usurp her loyal Commons.

Off with his head.
 
Craig B said:
You mean that Boris is on the side of Parliament in rebellion against Liz? That seems most implausible. This time it may be the Crown and parliament who will be acting together in rebellion against an "evil counsellor" who presumes to deceive Her Majesty in order to usurp her loyal Commons.

Off with his head.
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Did he give a reason to the queen for the request?
 
BobTheCoward said:
Did he give a reason to the queen for the request?
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The FT's legal editor writes:
The Scottish court has found unanimously that the Prime Minister misled the Queen. In effect, the court has held that Boris Johnson lied to the Queen so as to obtain prorogation. Wow. Just, wow. Not seen a court decision like this in thirty years of constitutional geekery.”​

The reason why he wants prorogation is presumably so that he can perform constitutionally nefarious deeds without interference from her Majesty's loyal Commons. That's the sort of thing that Evil Counsellors traditionally do.
 
Craig B said:
The FT's legal editor writes:
The Scottish court has found unanimously that the Prime Minister misled the Queen. In effect, the court has held that Boris Johnson lied to the Queen so as to obtain prorogation. Wow. Just, wow. Not seen a court decision like this in thirty years of constitutional geekery.”​

The reason why he wants prorogation is presumably so that he can perform constitutionally nefarious deeds without interference from her Majesty's loyal Commons. That's the sort of thing that Evil Counsellors traditionally do.
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So, what did he tell the queen?
 
dudalb said:
Yellowhammer......who is the genius who that name for a crisis contingency plan was a good idea?

Sounds like a Marvel or DC Supervillian, or the title of a James Bond movie.

I am a Yank, so not impacted (we have our own problems) but to me the UK is screwed badly if No Deal Happens, and it won't take long for the effects to happen.
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They use a big book of codewords. C.f. The "Rainbow Codes".
 
Vixen said:
Probably to do with civil unrest as it follows on from the para about increased protests and long lorry delays.
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I just bet every half-baked terrorist and malcontent is waiting for Brexit. The potential for maximum death and disruption is amazing. :rolleyes:


On a related note I heard from a former colleague (we worked at Giant IT Services Company together) who's been told her planned break over the debacle period has been cancelled.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
bit naughty to redact that. claim of commercial sensitivity seems to be another lie
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Just for clarity on Yellowhammer, as I am seeing some incorrect things about.
This is the same version The Sunday Times had in mid-August. However, the header of that was different. It said: "HMG Planning Assumptions" then "Base scenario".
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Rosamund Urwin
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This one is now claiming to be "HMG reasonable worst case planning assumptions". Bit of a change no?
And why they thought anyone would fall for this, I don't know...
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Splendid

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Theyve changed the title of the yellowhammer document before releasing it to pretend once again its a worst case.

at the same time its revealed that 4 and a half billion pounds of short positions are invested on brexit by hedge funds linked to Bojo and Vote Leave.

and a minister goes on tv to disparage the impartiality if the judiciary.

utterly criminal.
 
confirmed by legal bods that the decision in court today means parliament is still in session and should be sitting. be interesting to see if the speaker and others will act on this tonorrow
 
This also isn't the 37 page pack that the DfT prepared presumably just for that department.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Theyve changed the title of the yellowhammer document before releasing it to pretend once again its a worst case.

at the same time its revealed that 4 and a half billion pounds of short positions are invested on brexit by hedge funds linked to Bojo and Vote Leave.

and a minister goes on tv to disparage the impartiality if the judiciary.

utterly criminal.
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What's scary is that if the worst does come to the worst then the Gov. will go full ceptimus, blame the EU for its intransigence, and get 40% support from the people. Factor in those who don't like Brexit but just can't help but vote Tory and they could just win the next election.
 
dudalb said:
Yellowhammer......who is the genius who that name for a crisis contingency plan was a good idea?



Sounds like a Marvel or DC Supervillian, or the title of a James Bond movie.



I am a Yank, so not impacted (we have our own problems) but to me the UK is screwed badly if No Deal Happens, and it won't take long for the effects to happen.
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It possibly has serious consequences for the globe. With Trump doing his best to bring on a recession, all we need is for the UK to add to the instability in global financial markets.
 
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Craig B said:
You mean that Boris is on the side of Parliament in rebellion against Liz? That seems most implausible. This time it may be the Crown and parliament who will be acting together in rebellion against an "evil counsellor" who presumes to deceive Her Majesty in order to usurp her loyal Commons.

Off with his head.
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Just making a joke....
 
GlennB said:
What's scary is that if the worst does come to the worst then the Gov. will go full ceptimus, blame the EU for its intransigence, and get 40% support from the people. Factor in those who don't like Brexit but just can't help but vote Tory and they could just win the next election.
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In any two party system, the two major parties will each get 40% automatically...the Mickey Mouse voters.(They would vote for Mickey Mouse if he headed the party ticket),
 
dudalb said:
In any two party system, the two major parties will each get 40% automatically...the Mickey Mouse voters.(They would vote for Mickey Mouse if he headed the party ticket),
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As mentioned, it’s not a two-party system by any stretch. Only recently we had a Con-DUP alliance and before that a Con-Dem coalition. This is not to mention the SNP who dominate the Scottish constituencies and Plaid Cymru who have a fair amount of support in Wales, and of course the Brexit Party who won a string of seats in the EU elections and whose earlier incarnation UKIP scared the Conservatives into pandering to anti-EU sentiment in the run-up to and aftermath of the European election.

That said, both main parties are headed up by Mickey Mouse so we shall see soon enough what voters make of them.
 
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