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The Don said:
What leads you to that conclusion ?

There are plenty of smaller European states that seem to manage just fine. It's true that there are areas of Wales which are among the most deprived in the UK, but they're by no means the most deprived. Then again there are areas, particularly along the M4 corridor which are doing very nicely indeed.

Wales has benefited from EU funding but there is some debate as to whether Wales is a net recipient of EU funding. If UK per capita contributions are considered then Wales may be a net contributor, reports on other studies indicate that it's a net recipient.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/report-claims-wales-gets-245m-11375402

Of course, if an independent Wales was in the EU but England wasn't and was operating on significantly different terms with the EU than it currently does (WTO terms or limited trade deal) then that would have profound effects on the Welsh economy. Some sectors could benefit from work moving from England to Wales as EU companies review their suppliers and other sectors could be hit.
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Careful, you will be accused of hating the English by saying that.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Careful, you will be accused of hating the English by saying that.
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Water off a duck's back. dudalb has accused me of hating the US and Americans on many occasions. Accusing me of hating the English would even things up nicely given that Daddy Don is American and Mummy Don was English ;)
 
The Don said:
Water off a duck's back. dudalb has accused me of hating the US and Americans on many occasions. Accusing me of hating the English would even things up nicely given that Daddy Don is American and Mummy Don was English ;)
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Don’t worry, dudalb now also hates Americans.
 
Jeremy Corbyn is putting the final nail in the coffin of avoiding a no-deal Brexit - and of being Prime Minister one day:

Brexit: Voters must have 'Leave' option - Corbyn
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

75% of Labour supporters want to Remain. He stands a far greater chance of driving them away than he does of tempting Conservatives and Brexit Party supporters who want Brexit, but not a no-deal Brexit to vote Labour.
 
The Don said:
Jeremy Corbyn is putting the final nail in the coffin of avoiding a no-deal Brexit - and of being Prime Minister one day:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

75% of Labour supporters want to Remain. He stands a far greater chance of driving them away than he does of tempting Conservatives and Brexit Party supporters who want Brexit, but not a no-deal Brexit to vote Labour.
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I think he's right, even for the wrong reasons.

In any referendum, the voters must have the Leave option, prefferably "no deal" too. That's because this gives you ammunition against Farage and his chronies: your option was on the referendum and recieved minority support; deal with it, crybabies.

If Leave, or No Deal, is not on the referendum they'll just start claiming the Brits were cheated out of a democratic choice because their preffered version was excluded from the referendum. They'll scream, they'll howl and they'll get another shot at the whole thing a few years down the line - because you won't be able to point why it is false.

If their option is defeated on the referendum however a solid portion of the electorate will see them for what they are. Yes, Nigel and the rest of the vermin will continue on making careers out of destroying the country they profess their love for, but it will take significantly longer for them to ever get in the spot where they can deal real damage.

If UK gets another referendum, it is imperative Leave with no deal is on the ballot, otherwise all you get is a season finale with a cliffhanger.

McHrozni
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Careful, you will be accused of hating the English by saying that.
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In recent months I have been attending a series of pro independence marches in towns around Scotland, held under the aegis of "All Under One Banner."

Many flags are displayed at these demonstrations. The saltire is ubiquitous, but one also see a few Lion Rampants, the Catalan Estellada, the EU stars in circle and various hybrids of these designs, produced by eccentric individual vexillophiles. On the last couple of occasions I have been pleased to note the appearance of the flag of England - that is, St George's Cross, and it has been greeted with no hostility at all by demonstrators.

But if you seek to undo the British Union, you will be accused of anti English racism. That is understandable I suppose. To the colonial British mind, how could anyone have other than the vilest motives for wishing to dispense with England's motherly embrace?
 
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1171358735031316480

So one Tory MP tells me that Boris Johnson told them that he *did* now have concerns about no deal

The PM apparently said that he had looked in detail

While he was confident that each individual measure could be mitigated, all together at once they present a very big challenge

None of which amounts to a shift in position

And this was a remain leaning MP so there may have been an element of tailoring the message to the audience

But it’s the first time I’ve heard that kind of report
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Metaphor for Brexit

Indian media reports have said that the lander suffered a "hard landing", possibly damaging it and the rover inside.
 
Metaphor for Brexit

Indian media reports have said that the lander suffered a "hard landing", possibly damaging it and the rover inside.

No deal Brexit ....
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
The Duke of Wellington has resigned from the Conservative Party!

Just read that again, the Duke of Wellington!!!!
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Yes. But what Duke of Wellington was ever known to be a true conservative?
Even the First Duke himself dabbled with those left leaning Ultra Tories, back in his day.

Or something. I'm sure the brexiteers will think of anything to declare this to be nothing important.
 
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