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Cont: Man shot, killed by off-duty Dallas police officer who walked into wrong apartment p2

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I like the "bothsidesism" in this thread. It's a perfect way to be right no matter what happens.

If she gets indicted and sent to prison you get to say, "YAY, that's what I totally wanted to happen omgz!!!!"

If she doesn't you get to say, "I told ya. I knew this all along."

Good stuff.
 
plague311 said:
I like the "bothsidesism" in this thread. It's a perfect way to be right no matter what happens.

If she gets indicted and sent to prison you get to say, "YAY, that's what I totally wanted to happen omgz!!!!"

If she doesn't you get to say, "I told ya. I knew this all along."

Good stuff.
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What I want to happen and what I think will happen aren't the same thing. That's not playing both sides.
 
plague311 said:
I like the "bothsidesism" in this thread. It's a perfect way to be right no matter what happens.

If she gets indicted and sent to prison you get to say, "YAY, that's what I totally wanted to happen omgz!!!!"

If she doesn't you get to say, "I told ya. I knew this all along."

Good stuff.
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It's not bothsidesism. It is discussing what should happen versus what likely will happen. That's uh...strange to you?

eta: ninja'd by a poster who thinks mistake of fact doesn't exist. I need to rethink my life.
 
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A woman walked into an apartment that was not hers, and shot the person who lived there, and was sitting there peacefully, twice, killing him.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

If she walks away with nothing, there is a problem with our justice system.
 
pgwenthold said:
A woman walked into an apartment that was not hers, and shot the person who lived there, and was sitting there peacefully, twice, killing him.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

If she walks away with nothing, there is a problem with our justice system.
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Yup. That's the theme, here.

And not just a problem. A freaking abomination
 
pgwenthold said:
A woman walked into an apartment that was not hers, and shot the person who lived there, and was sitting there peacefully, twice, killing him.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

If she walks away with nothing, there is a problem with our justice system.
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The legal theorizing here is fantasy. The most charitable interpretation would still be manslaughter. If she walks, it's because the jury.

Juries love cops. Even in the case of the shooting of Walter Scott, the first case ended in mistrial because of a holdout juror who would not vote guilty on the killer cop.

Not sure how you fix that. Unjust juries give unjust verdicts.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Not sure how you fix that. Unjust juries give unjust verdicts.
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Maybe by taking away a legal concept so broadly and universally applicable as "LOL sorry as I was wrong, guess you have to let me go" so they can no longer apply when a white cop shoots a black guy in the literal most ludicrous possible scenario but not to the dozens of white cops who shoot black people?

Again when legality has been watered down to "We're going to judge you via the scenario that you had playing in your head oh and we're also not going to require the scenario in your head to match reality on even the most basic level" we've basically taken the legal system to the "Do you want to be a criminal, yes or no, honest answers only please" level of pointless.
 
pgwenthold said:
A woman walked into an apartment that was not hers, and shot the person who lived there, and was sitting there peacefully, twice, killing him.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

If she walks away with nothing, there is a problem with our justice system.
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The fact is that she shot twice and hit him once.
 
JoeMorgue said:
"Listen I only hit the black guy once. In Texas that's only a 20 dollar fine."
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Nonsense, thats typical stereotyping Texas abolished the fines for missing a black person years ago. Mind you there is the damage to the wall to pay for. Presumably that would have come out of her security deposit for her apartment.....
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Juries love cops.
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This was posted a couple days ago in post #607...

News One said:
Dallas News reported on Tuesday that “people who seem extremely pro-police or highly sympathetic to the causes of groups such as Black Lives Matter” will not be selected as potential jurors in the murder case.
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So maybe they let in pro-police but not extreme pro-police. Or maybe it's all a scam meant to give the impression of impartiality and lack of bias.
 
Darat said:
It was a full and complete answer to what you asked me. Perhaps reread it?
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Let's.

How is this:

Darat said:
Going to the wrong door is something I can accept one can do "unconsciously" if you like.

But entering an apartment, and deciding to kill someone and taking several steps to do that - nope I don't think you can do that "unconsciously" (and if someone could they are a clear and literally a deadly danger to society!)
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An answer to this:

Belz... said:
Uh-huh, but do you agree with the consequent: if you allow that she could reasonably think she was home, would it not mean that should be expected to defend that home?
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I didn't mention unconsciously or anything else. I said that once your expectation of being home is reasonable, is it not also reasonable to defend it?

Your answer was to a different question. I suspect by your behaviour that the answer is "no", but then it would mean that you don't think you have a right to defend your home in the first place.
 
Darat said:
Nonsense, thats typical stereotyping Texas abolished the fines for missing a black person years ago. Mind you there is the damage to the wall to pay for. Presumably that would have come out of her security deposit for her apartment.....
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The repairs should come out of his security. He had the audacity to appear to be in her apartment.

Mistake of fact squared FTW
 
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