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The Electric Comet Theory Part IV/SAFIRE

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Reality Check said:
The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiralQUOTE]

Sol88's insanity of exposing his abysmal ignorance of astronomy (and even Google or Wikipedia!) to derail from his demented cult's electric comet insanity.

The Ulysses mission encountered three comet tails. The crossing of the tail of comet C/2006 P1 showed an "obstruction" of the solar wind: "measured solar wind velocity dropping from approximately 700 kilometers per second (1,566,000 mph) to less than 400 kilometers per second (895,000 mph).[14]"
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So that's a yes to,
Does the comets tail act as an obstacle to the solar wind?
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The usual lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years

Sol88 said:
So that's a yes to,
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That is a yes to your stupid derailing from your demented cult's electric comet insanity.
That is a yes to your inability to understand high school level science when it is explained to you. Thus decades of blindly parroting and insanely expanding your demented cult's electric comet insanity.
Sol88's insanity of asking idiotic questions to derail from his demented cult's electric comet insanity.

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
 
The usual lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years

Sol88 said:
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral

Sol88's insane ignorance of fundamental physics (Maxwell's equations). Insane because he parrots his demented cult's electric comet insanity and does not know what "electric" means!
 
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Sol88 said:
From the Ulysses mission.
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That was not really what I was asking with "which tail", I meant the gas or the dust tail.

To quote Ed Smith (recently deceased):

As we were not looking for comets, we did not realize the significance of the data right away," said Smith. "The solar wind seemed to almost disappear and was replaced by gases not normally found in the solar wind, and the magnetic field in the solar wind was distorted.
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For the rest I think all the answers are in Jones et al. (2002).

and

Gloeckler et al. (2000)

Apparently re-acceleration of the mass loaded solar wind take a long time.
 
tusenfem said:
That was not really what I was asking with "which tail", I meant the gas or the dust tail.

To quote Ed Smith (recently deceased):



For the rest I think all the answers are in Jones et al. (2002).

and

Gloeckler et al. (2000)

Apparently re-acceleration of the mass loaded solar wind take a long time.
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The presence of a coherent structure so far from the nucleus suggests that the plasma tails of comets may persist as discrete entities for many astronomical units. As the tail of Hyakutake persisted to Ulysses, it is likely that this structure, ultimately produced by an object only,2.4 km across, survived to reach the edge of the heliosphere.
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That's quite large!
 
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Meanwhile...

For the first time, astronomers catch asteroid in the act of changing color

Marsset and his colleagues have also confirmed that the asteroid is rocky—proof that the asteroid's tail, though seemingly comet-like, is caused by an entirely different mechanism, as comets are not rocky but more like loose snowballs of ice and dust.
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Classic! :D

(c) Whatarecometsmadeof? At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the first quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited
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:rolleyes:
 
The usual lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years

Sol88 said:
Meanwhile......
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral

Sol88 insanity about an asteroid in a thread about his demented cult's electric comet insanity.

Sol88's persistent insanity of emphasizing the insanity in his demented cult's electric comet insanity :eek:! If the few asteroids with comet-like behavior were electric comets ten in there demented minds there has to be 100,000's of theses electric comets and they do not exist!

Sol88's persistent insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn. No one with 2 brain cells would state that an asteroid that is denser than water and thus rocky is a comet that is less dense than water and thus ices and dust.

Sol88's persistent demented lies about a obsession with 1 quote from Michael Francis A'Hearn who has hundred od papers on ices and dust comets! A'Hearn was writing about ices and dust comets, not asteroids.

For the first time, astronomers catch asteroid in the act of changing color
Last December, scientists discovered an "active" asteroid within the asteroid belt, sandwiched between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. The space rock, designated by astronomers as 6478 Gault, appeared to be leaving two trails of dust in its wake—active behavior that is associated with comets but rarely seen in asteroids.
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Marsset and his colleagues have also confirmed that the asteroid is rocky—proof that the asteroid's tail, though seemingly comet-like, is caused by an entirely different mechanism, as comets are not rocky but more like loose snowballs of ice and dust.

"It's the first time to my knowledge that we see a rocky body emitting dust, a little bit like a comet," Marsset says. "It means that probably some mechanism responsible for dust emission is different from comets, and different from most other active main-belt asteroids."
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"We know of about a million bodies between Mars and Jupiter, and maybe about 20 that are active in the asteroid belt," Marsset says. "So this is very rare."
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The article is partially wrong. This is not behavior that is associated with comets which have an ion tail and a dust tail, not 2 dust tails.
 
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For the first time, astronomers catch asteroid in the act of changing color
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The demented Thunderbolts cult also has the dogma that asteroids originate from blasted off the surface of rocky planets. See this insane delusion from Wal Thornhill in one of the Thunderbolts lying and deluded video: "And those cosmic thunderbolts are the very thing that rips material from the surface of a planets or even a sub stellar body and hurls it into space to form debris of all sorts, ranging from dust through to meteoroids, comets and asteroids. And even, it could be said, new moons and planets."

The cited observation is consistent with the asteroid being formed in the early Solar System.
The scientists say they are likely seeing the asteroid's surface dust, turned red over millions of years of exposure to the sun, being ejected into space, revealing a fresh, less irradiated surface beneath, that appears blue at near-infrared wavelengths.
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SDG said:
SAFIRE 2019 update:
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Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project, SDG. Insane because anyone who knows any astronomy knows that stars have to have central sources of energy to be stable. Remove that from the Sun and the Sun is a white dwarf :jaw-dropp!

The Sun is not a metal ball with an externally powered magnetic field :eye-poppi!

An insane description with "energy production; transmutation/creation of elements; remediation of radioactive materials". The SAFIRE project is a metal ball surrounded by plasma. This is basically chemistry with no fission or fusion.
  • It will produce less energy than it consumes.
    There may be chemical reactions producing energy.
  • There will be no transmutation/creation of elements.
  • There will be no radioactive materials other than what they already have introduced.
Insanity of "science by presentation at a crank (Electric Universe) conference". This project has been running for over 5 years and has not produced a single scientific paper in a scientific journal relating to their literally insane delusion that the Sun is not powered by nuclear fusion at its core.

If you actually view the first few minutes of the video, SDG, you will see standard plasma physics mixed with some lies and delusions, e.g. several double layer delusions.
  1. The "factors they control" are standard factors in plasma experiments.
  2. We have been producing plasmas in labs with energy densities analogous to (or exceeding) plasma in the solar atmosphere for many decades!
    Nuclear fusion reactor research tries to duplicate the energy densities in the solar core.
  3. A delusion that there are "stable self-organizing double layers" in the turbulent solar atmosphere.
  4. Finding "trapping of ions, electrons and molecules" in double layers is irrelevant to stars and possible a lie.
  5. A lie of "stellar tufts" existing.
    The Sun has granulation on its surface from convection cells being exposed on its surface.
  6. A delusion that "all the evidence suggests electricity is the primal force in the universe".
    All the evidence we have suggests that gravity is the "primal" force in the universe.
At about 2 minutes we get into stuff about people preparing for the crank conference. That is about as much stupidity that I could take.
 
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steenkh said:
This is a fun object: The Case of the Sun-Diving Asteroid that Thinks It's a Comet.

It is all rock, it goes close to the Sun, but it has no cometary activity. It doesn't look too good for the Electric Comet theory :rolleyes:
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Great read for a giggle...
Let me confuse you more: It's possible that 322P does emit material!
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Classic!

You seem to confuse easily...


Comets are mostly rock.

So that piece actually reinforces the electric comets...comets are rocky objects.
 
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Sol88 said:
Great read for a giggle...

Classic!

You seem to confuse easily...


Comets are mostly rock.

So that piece actually reinforces the electric comets...comets are rocky objects.
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Lol. No it does not. Unless one is severely limited in the comprehension department! No rock ever found on a comet.
 
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