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Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed?

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I'd never heard of the chick till about a week ago and have zero idea what all the hype over her is.

Sure. It’s simply coincidental that you are echoing right-wing climate change denier criticisms against a young person making a difference. How dare she.

And “chick”? Really?
 
Sure. It’s simply coincidental that you are echoing right-wing climate change denier criticisms against a young person making a difference. How dare she.

And “chick”? Really?

No

I am pointing out that one particular trip is stupid.

I have no idea what else she has done, and if it is good, then great, but I don't particularly care.
 
No

I am pointing out that one particular trip is stupid.

I have no idea what else she has done, and if it is good, then great, but I don't particularly care.

This thread is about Greta Thunberg and you admit knowing nothing about her. Why are you posting?
 
I am pointing out that one particular trip is stupid.

And why is that? In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. It's a symbolic yet ultimately futile gesture, but somehow it manages to trigger so many people for no good reason at all. It's like she's expected to adhere to some absolute abstinence from utilizing anything's that's not carbon neutral, even though she's not made that kind of commitment.
 
It just seems a tad stupid that her chosen transport needed as she chooses not to fly because of emission requires more people flying.

Well, it didn't really require more people flying. That was a choice the owner and crew has made.

Thunberg let it be known she wanted to go to the Americas by sail to attend the conference. The owner of this boat offered her a ride, and she accepted. That's the limit of Thunberg's involvement. The boat's owner is under no obligation to share Thunberg's philosophy; and the fact that he/she does not, doesn't prove that Thunberg's motivation was misguided or futile. What they decided to do after dropping her off has nothing to do with her.
 
This thread is about Greta Thunberg and you admit knowing nothing about her. Why are you posting?

There is a forum rule about not commenting on topics you find interesting?

Like virtue signaling

I tell you what

You write down a list of topics you think I shouldn't comment on and I will print it and file it in a perfect place.

I get you are sensitive about this topic, but this isn't my problem
 
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Well, it didn't really require more people flying. That was a choice the owner and crew has made.

Thunberg let it be known she wanted to go to the Americas by sail to attend the conference. The owner of this boat offered her a ride, and she accepted. That's the limit of Thunberg's involvement. The boat's owner is under no obligation to share Thunberg's philosophy; and the fact that he/she does not, doesn't prove that Thunberg's motivation was misguided or futile. What they decided to do after dropping her off has nothing to do with her.

This is true and if she is happy a bunch of people took airplane trips back so she didn't have to take one, that is obviously a great symbolism to some people.

I personally can't understand why it is, but then maybe I am just not looking at the "big picture"
 
I personally can't understand why it is, but then maybe I am just not looking at the "big picture"

You can say that again.

What do you think about global warming?

On the off chance you have bothered to look at what Thunberg is doing, what do you think of her efforts?
 
You can say that again.

What do you think about global warming?

On the off chance you have bothered to look at what Thunberg is doing, what do you think of her efforts?

I haven't looked, but since I have heard of her, I have heard more good than bad.

This doesn't make that particular trip more logical to her apparent cause.

Apologies, but I really can't be bothered making an effort over a teenager just saying what loads of other people say.
 
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You can say that again.

What do you think about global warming?

On the off chance you have bothered to look at what Thunberg is doing, what do you think of her efforts?

With regard to what I think about climate change

The climate is obviously changing.

How much man has to do with how quickly it is happening to me is the actual topic.

I have no idea, but imagine we are contibuting quite a bit to the speed.

I think "carbon credits" and Carbon exchange schemes are utter bollocks as all it does is charge people more so companies spewing emissions can still spew the same emissions, but just get kind of a tax refund.

And until India, China and the US act (which they won't) in the plucked out of the air 11 years till death to all, it is a tad silly.
 
I haven't looked, but since I have heard of her, I have heard more good than bad.

This doesn't make that particular trip more logical to her apparent cause.

Apologies, but I really can't be bothered making an effort over a teenager just saying what loads of other people say.

Jeez, you know this thread isn’t just about her trip to the US don’t you? This event is what climate change deniers are getting hot and bothered about.

Do you understand she is communicating to the generations which will be gravely impacted by the incompetence of earlier generations?

But she’s just a teenager “chick” ( again, really?) so can be safely ignored. :rolleyes:

The ignorance of some in this thread is amazing.
 
With regard to what I think about climate change

The climate is obviously changing.

How much man has to do with how quickly it is happening to me is the actual topic.

I have no idea, but imagine we are contibuting quite a bit to the speed.

I think "carbon credits" and Carbon exchange schemes are utter bollocks as all it does is charge people more so companies spewing emissions can still spew the same emissions, but just get kind of a tax refund.

And until India, China and the US act (which they won't) in the plucked out of the air 11 years till death to all, it is a tad silly.

Oh dear, denialism 101.
 
You got denialism from me saying man contributes quite a bit to the speed of climate change

How does that work?

Weasel words. “How much.......” “I have no idea......”.

Accept the science. That is Greta’s message.
 
Weasel words. “How much.......” “I have no idea......”.

Accept the science. That is Greta’s message.

You didn't answer my question, and you also seem to be saying that this whole 11 year thing is proven and not computer modelling
 
For what it is worth. As I don't want to turn this into an ugly argument.

Yes. I think man contributes to obvious current climate change.

I also think climate change happens naturally as to not do so would be dim. The question is how much mans influence has on these changes.

And frankly again. I do not know. The fact you think your awesome enough to know for sure is great ...... Big ups to you.

Not pumping bad stuff out is a good thing either way, as it also has environmental upsides, but the 4-5 big players aren't going to stop doing it, and without them she is a bit of a dead end.
 
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