Cont: Brexit: Now What? Magic 8 Ball's up

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jimbob said:
I'm not sure. I think Johnson could be planning on getting Parliament to call a VoNC, and then Johnson would be "forced" into a General Election and gamble that he'd get an actual majority - maybe with a gentleman's* agreement with the Brexit party to attack the lexiteers in the Labour heartlands.
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Yea and he can still crash out at the end of october! How does a VONC get an extension?
 
Mr Fied said:
Stop fretting everyone.

Boris is leading us to the promised land, we can save plenty of money by doing away with parliament altogether and any shortfall will be made up by selling a box of pork pies to America.
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Uh, in the US we don't like Pork Pies very much.
 
Might as well just rip off the bandage at this point. After the UK crashes out, everything can start moving back towards a state of maximum reasonableness.

EU: "Hey, old chum! I've gone over some of our agreements, and I think it'd benefit both of us if we made some adjustments."

UK: "By Jove, it's so obvious!"

A few extra agreements on trade here, some amendments on free movement there. It'll be like the UK never left.
 
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Bob001 said:
There has been some speculation that the prospect of a new border between Ireland and Northern Ireland could push NI to leave the UK. What would be the process to accomplish that, and how long would it take?
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I have not seen any speculation, but in any case, there is no process. No one has left the actual UK before. We used to lose colonies on a regular basis, which just meant a ceremony to hand over power, a trade deal that favoured the UK and an invitation to stay in the Commonwealth.
 
dudalb said:
You just don't get it. The people in power are out to see there is no General Election again.
Difference is ..and I know I am going to get clobbered for this..in 1640 the Parlimentarians had the means to resist Charles The First. You guys don't.
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Honestly, I think we do. Industrially advanced societies with well informed populations having access to social media and the internet will be extremely difficult to rule by tyrannical or dictatorial means. Attempts to impose such rule will destroy the fabric of society rather than reduce the population to submission. It will also cause unprecedented international outrage and financial crisis. Charles I appealed to the divine right of kings, which was then a widely accepted doctrine, but no divine right attaches to Boris, any more than it does to Trump across the water.
 
Nessie said:
No one has left the actual UK before. We used to lose colonies on a regular basis, which just meant a ceremony to hand over power, a trade deal that favoured the UK and an invitation to stay in the Commonwealth.
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Most of Ireland left the Uk in 1922, forcing the UK to change its name from "UK of GB and Ireland" to "U.K. Of GB and N Ireland" which indicates that the rest of Ireland had left the UK. That area later (in 1949) declared itself to be a Republic and on that ground alone must have left the United Kingdom.
 
Nessie said:
I have not seen any speculation, but in any case, there is no process. No one has left the actual UK before. We used to lose colonies on a regular basis, which just meant a ceremony to hand over power, a trade deal that favoured the UK and an invitation to stay in the Commonwealth.
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No one has left the actual UK before?? Where do you think the Republic of Ireland came from?
 
Strawberry said:
No one has left the actual UK before?? Where do you think the Republic of Ireland came from?
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The ROI has never been part of the UK. It was colonised. We can debate that, but the issue is that of the more willing long term members of the UK none have left. i suspect Scotland will be the first.
 
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Jack by the hedge said:
Back a couple of decades ago when people last gave a **** about the political parties the conferences were a big deal and got vast media attention. Each major party (plus the TUC) got their turn to capture the news agenda for a week. Interest dwindled along with membership and as politicians got better at news management and not putting their foot in it the hardest task facing journalists became staying awake just in case someone accidentally said something newsworthy.
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The most newsworthy items at conferences in recent years have been overreactions to heckling. Someone gets thrown out for abusing a speaker, it gets on all the media, then every sits down for a beer next day.
 
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