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The Trump Presidency: Sweet/Sweat 16

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Does this idiot do anything but golf, tweet, and attend self-promoting rallies? What a waste of space.
 
newyorkguy said:
Isn't hard to find. The Daily Mail seems to be the main source being quoted but... Here's what they reported:
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So he 'smashed' Elton John's previous record by two hundred out of a crowd of over 11,000.
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I was at an Elton John concert a few years back. Despite it being a 'sell out', there were large parts of the stadium seating blocked off, because it would have been behind the stage (and blocked by equipment.) And furthermore, there was seating on the floor, but it did not take up the whole arena surface since they needed space for the stage.

When Trump appears at a venue, he usually has people seated behind him (gotta have those token minorities some where...) And since his 'stage' is likely smaller (no need for a piano, or backup musicians), there is more space for floor seating. This means he could (in theory) fit more people into a stadium than Elton John, but its not a very impressive feat simply because there are more seats available.

Oh, and as other posters have pointed out:
- Trump was free to see; Elton John tickets cost money
- The Elton John concert that Stubby McBonespurs was comparing his rally with was YEARS ago. Given general population growth, there are more people total in the U.S. Getting 10,000 from a population of (for example) 1 million is harder than getting 11,000 from a population of 2 million.
 
The background between Elton and Donnie. Trump used lot of Elton's music during the 2016 campaign (without permission) :
"I don't really want my music to be involved in anything to do with an American election campaign. I'm British," said John. "I've met Donald Trump, he was very nice to me, it's nothing personal, his political views are his own, mine are very different, I'm not a Republican in a million years." John then suggested (complete with expletives) that Trump call on Ted Nugent. Adding rocket fuel (sorry) to the fire, John reportedly referred to Trump as "a barbarian" while performing at a fundraiser for candidate Hillary Clinton... Link
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After the election was won, Anthony Scaramucci, then a member of the presidential transition team, told the BBC, "Elton John is going to be doing our concert on the Mall for the inauguration."
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Again, nobody bothered to run this by Elton.
"He will NOT be performing at Trump's Inauguration!" wrote John's publicist Fran Curtis in an email to CNN at the time.
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So let me get this straight...

The Trump criteria for being a great president is that he had a few hundred more free hangers-on attend one of his rallies in 2019 than Elton John had paid customers at his 2004 concert at the same venue. On the word of some unnamed fire-marshal, and Trump has been caught out previously lying about attendance figures through a fake fire-marshal.

Is that about where we are?
 
Belz... said:
Ex-Republican doesn't count. It's the ones in Congress that have to stand up to him.
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True. The ones with any ethics have already spoken out against Trump or left the party. Those that remain and/or are silent are either idiots, cowards, bigots, racists, and/or only concerned with re-election.
 
Norman Alexander said:
So let me get this straight...

The Trump criteria for being a great president is that he had a few hundred more free hangers-on attend one of his rallies in 2019 than Elton John had paid customers at his 2004 concert at the same venue. On the word of some unnamed fire-marshal, and Trump has been caught out previously lying about attendance figures through a fake fire-marshal.

Is that about where we are?
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Well, it's not like Trump has a history of claiming his crowds are bigger than other crowds for the same event.
 
phiwum said:
In any case, the fire marshal claims (allegedly?) that it was the largest crowd in the arena. He seems to be a guy who would know, more 'n likely, and I will take his word for it until I see reason not to. A photo like that is poor evidence compared to the fire marshal's assessment.
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I won't. A fire marshal claiming capacity should be in reference to max capacity for safety, which would include the obstructed view. Also, there is the fact that many people will lie just to make it appear that Trump is more popular than Trump is.
 
Cain said:
Who knew an American president could pack an arena with Americans at an event that had free admission?
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Trump has claimed that to have sold out of tickets for these free events in the past.....
 
Norman Alexander said:
So let me get this straight...

The Trump criteria for being a great president is that he had a few hundred more free hangers-on attend one of his rallies in 2019 than Elton John had paid customers at his 2004 concert at the same venue. On the word of some unnamed fire-marshal, and Trump has been caught out previously lying about attendance figures through a fake fire-marshal.

Is that about where we are?
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Close, aside from the "unnamed fire marshal" bit. He was named in an article in the Daily Mail. This is evidently an actual fire marshal.
 
Apparently Trump thinks it would be a great real estate investment to buy Greenland and pay the roughly 700 million dollars the Danish are now giving away every year.

America will have long ceased to exist by the time it would have even been close to making a net profit.
 
Norman Alexander said:
So let me get this straight...

The Trump criteria for being a great president is that he had a few hundred more free hangers-on attend one of his rallies in 2019 than Elton John had paid customers at his 2004 concert at the same venue. On the word of some unnamed fire-marshal, and Trump has been caught out previously lying about attendance figures through a fake fire-marshal.

Is that about where we are?
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Yes, that sums it up quite nicely, thank you for keeping score.
 
phiwum said:
Close, aside from the "unnamed fire marshal" bit. He was named in an article in the Daily Mail. This is evidently an actual fire marshal.
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Yes, I read how he "estimated" the capacities rather than actually counting heads too. So a couple of hundred difference out of 11,000+ is only a few percent. So he could have been out by a much bigger margin. But as you say, even if he was spot-on, what the effing hell does it matter!

shemp said:
Yes, that sums it up quite nicely, thank you for keeping score.
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So could you say...

Donald Trump Totally Copied Elton John???
 
Stacyhs said:
Does this idiot do anything but golf, tweet, and attend self-promoting rallies? What a waste of space.
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Exchange love letters with Kim? Point to names on the lists of judges that are handed to him by far right activists? Eat Big Macs? Fantasize about Putin and Ivanka?

Anyways, moving on to the random news. Something that I missed, apparently.

'Straight-Up Cruel': Trump Administration Condemned for Canceling Education, Recreation, and Legal Services for Detained Migrant Children

Human rights advocates responded with outrage Wednesday to the Trump administration's decision to start canceling education, recreation, and legal services for unaccompanied migrant children in federal shelters across the country, purportedly because of high detention rates and low funds.

"It's bad enough that the Trump administration is trying to normalize the warehousing of children. It's unconscionable that they would so blatantly try to strip them of their rights," Denise Bell, a researcher for refugee and migrant rights at Amnesty International USA, said in a statement."Locking up children and then denying them legal aid, education, and even playtime is all part of this administration's cruel efforts to dehumanize people who have come to the U.S. seeking safety," she added. "Children's human rights must be protected by ensuring they receive proper care while in government custody and are released as soon as possible."

Bell's comments came after U.S. Health and Human Services spokesman Mark Weber confirmed to The Washington Post that the Office of Refugee Resettlement had begun discontinuing the funding for activities deemed "not directly necessary for the protection of life and safety, including education services, legal services, and recreation."
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This is worse than when the Japanese were put into concentration camps. Much worse, now. Those who aid and abet the Republicans doing this are complicit.
 
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