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Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed?

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uke2se said:
Again, it's like you don't even read what you are replying to. Do you not understand what the complaint is regarding the cockwomble's tweet?
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Arron Banks is a deeply unpleasant POS who almost certainly used corrupt tactics to bring about a 'leave' vote over Brexit.


He's hardly got any morals anyway, so who cares what his opinion on climate change is. He's in the same corner as Katie Hopkins and probably thrives on being perceived as a 'hater'.
 
Vixen said:
Arron Banks is a deeply unpleasant POS who almost certainly used corrupt tactics to bring about a 'leave' vote over Brexit.


He's hardly got any morals anyway, so who cares what his opinion on climate change is. He's in the same corner as Katie Hopkins and probably thrives on being perceived as a 'hater'.
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So the answer is that, no, you don't actually understand what the complain is.
 
uke2se said:
Are you unfamiliar with human communication? I ask because you seem to be having a completely different conversation than the rest of us.

No, they aren't supposed to hide in a corner. They are supposed to not take a swipe at Greta Thunberg, or else they will be rightly called out as haters. This isn't rocket science. Apply some thought and I'm sure you'll get it.
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So as far as you are concerned anyone who doesn't wholly support the mission statement of Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion are 'haters'.

Yet they may have come to their views equally as scientifically as Greta and her parents.

A more moderate view is to concur we should cut down on our carbon footprint and stop plastic and micro-particle pollution but are not convinced that schoolchildren going on strike or hurray Henry's blocking the roads to stop people going to work or visiting dying parents in hospital is so absolutely essential and urgent that anyone who doesn't fully back these activities is a 'hater'.
 
Vixen said:
So as far as you are concerned anyone who doesn't wholly support the mission statement of Greenpeace and Extinction Rebellion are 'haters'.
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Jesus Christ...

Read my post again. I'm not going to make this any easier for you, because it's easy enough to understand as it is, and watching you struggle has started to take on a kind of morbid fascination for me.

Vixen said:
Yet they may have come to their views equally as scientifically as Greta and her parents.
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People who deny climate change cannot have come to their views scientifically, per definition.

Vixen said:
A more moderate view is to concur we should cut down on our carbon footprint and stop plastic and micro-particle pollution but are not convinced that schoolchildren going on strike or hurray Henry's blocking the roads to stop people going to work or visiting dying parents in hospital is so absolutely essential and urgent that anyone who doesn't fully back these activities is a 'hater'.
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No, that's not a moderate view. That's a cowardly view that isn't going any length towards solving the problem. As for the "hater" thing, I'm interested to see how long it's going to take you to figure it out.
 
Her dad is with her so it's not much different from a parent taking their kid along with them for the ride. To see the news reports one could be forgiven for thinking she was a lone traveller, aside from the crew. There are also two cameramen so I expect there'll be some lucrative commercial vlogging to pay their fees and for the charter of the yacht.
 
Vixen said:
Her dad is with her so it's not much different from a parent taking their kid along with them for the ride. To see the news reports one could be forgiven for thinking she was a lone traveller, aside from the crew. There are also two cameramen so I expect there'll be some lucrative commercial vlogging to pay their fees and for the charter of the yacht.
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Charter for the yacht? I thought you said Greta's parents bought it for her. It and the whole crew.

Can her parents do anything right in your eyes?

Also, why are you still so determined to deprive Greta Thunberg of any agency? Are you jealous that she's doing more at her age than you've managed to do during your whole life, so it just has to be her parents?
 
uke2se said:
Charter for the yacht? I thought you said Greta's parents bought it for her. It and the whole crew.

Can her parents do anything right in your eyes?

Also, why are you still so determined to deprive Greta Thunberg of any agency? Are you jealous that she's doing more at her age than you've managed to do during your whole life, so it just has to be her parents?
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From Twitter:

https://twitter.com/thehistoryguy/status/1161912074861199360

Dan Snow
@thehistoryguy
At around Greta's age Alexander was subduing Thrace and crushing the Illyrians. Joan scattered the English at Orleans. Prince Hal hunted Glyndwr across Wales.

It's our aged society that is unusual. Not Greta.
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I wonder if she'll see any mermaids?
 
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I went to Devil's Point in Plymouth to see Greta off on her journey to the US. Here's a photo I took of her waving at me:

[IMGw=600]https://i.imgur.com/Emm3ubE.jpg[/IMGw]
 
There's something perversely comical about adults literally resorting to schoolyard style bullying against a teenage youth.
 
Myriad said:
Why are you opposed to her going? It seems you think she does have something to contribute, which you'd prefer she didn't.
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How do you reach that conclusion? I literally indicated the issue is don't be there if you are not really contributing. There are other places you can go and hang around people with no power making no contributions. Like this forum.

Though admittedly, my objection is more with her December leg of the trip than this one.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
How do you reach that conclusion? I literally indicated the issue is don't be there if you are not really contributing. There are other places you can go and hang around people with no power making no contributions. Like this forum.

Though admittedly, my objection is more with her December leg of the trip than this one.
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Well, that might be a believable excuse, if you had some sort of track record of being consistently opposed to people being places where they weren't really contributing. That's something that happens pretty often, for instance with sports spectators, protestors, bloggers and other amateur journalists, tourists, non-presenting conference attendees, sightseers and so forth.

But you've singled out Thunberg on that basis. Curious, and not really plausible. I think my original assessment still stands up pretty well.
 
Myriad said:
Well, that might be a believable excuse, if you had some sort of track record of being consistently opposed to people being places where they weren't really contributing. That's something that happens pretty often, for instance with sports spectators, protestors, bloggers and other amateur journalists, tourists, non-presenting conference attendees, sightseers and so forth.

But you've singled out Thunberg on that basis. Curious, and not really plausible. I think my original assessment still stands up pretty well.
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I definitely oppose live sporting event attendance.
 
Arcade22 said:
There's something perversely comical about adults literally resorting to schoolyard style bullying against a teenage youth.
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She scares them. A lot. They know that the usual tactics of obfuscate, ad hom, distract and vilify look extremely petty when leveled at the young.

She scares the **** out of them because people are listening to her. It's why they descend to what they view as insults like 'her parents helped'.
 
3point14 said:
Just to check, cos I missed your answer last time:

You don't believe global warming is happening? Or do you? Or do you believe it's not man made?
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The vogue amongst many right wingers nowadays is to be nihilistic about climate change. This is because they have lost the argument about whether or not it's real in the eyes of the general public. The trick now is to get people so apathetic about it so they see any action as meaningless. It's not a completely new tactic, but it seems to be the main focus nowadays, at least online. The crazies still deny it, of course, as do many of the loonier politicians, but the big dogs on the right know when to fold a losing hand.

I'm not saying theprestige is knowingly using this tactic. I'm sure he just follows the leader.
 
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