2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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Well, it's not like Pew or Gallup ask Democrats "would you vote for a billionaire" on their regular opinion polls. So I mentioned some other billionaires who have run for president. As noted, we certainly know where the Sanders / DSA contingent stand, so there is a non-trivial number of Democratic primary voters that are predisposed not to vote for a billionaire. Whether he can break through and change their minds or the remainder of supporters galvanize around him would be the next question. I guess we'll see.

I like his platform, but don't know the details well enough to see how differentiated it is vs. the rest of the field.

His "need to impeach" advertising spend always struck me as a quixotic waste of millions of dollars. Given that he's pledged to spend $100MM of his own money on the campaign, he didn't really need the money, so I suspect that his goal the whole time was to gather emails and supporters' info. So, maybe it turns out that the impeachment effort was an effective yet non-traditional campaign tactic. Like some other candidates that have built a PAC around an issue, then used that organization to help run for office.
 
If red America actually inflicted Trump on us good people as a punishment because they just couldn't handle how their towns were no longer viable I say we just let the blue areas break off and become their own nation.
From their perspective their target was the system that sold them up a river.

Now, I'll be about the last person to defend the callous disregard for collateral damage, but I will point out that's not the same thing.

Don't position yourself as the target entity in that narrative.

Nor is it fair to call disillusioned and hopeless Americans who would revel in the system being torn apart 'red America.'

I know lots of people who think Sanders is going to implode the system as it exists. There are left and right versions of this nationalist/populist phenomenon. It's just that the left is far less comfortable on that terrain so the extra discipline and unity it takes to pull it off has yielded only a handful of examples.
 
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Anyone who thinks that Steyer's political-machine-not-yet-heard-of won't be, isn't looking at much of the bigger picture. Kind of silly to dismiss such a well organized ground game because Steyer only recently decided to run for POTUS.

Anyone care to defend why Sanders' revolution hasn't grown much since 2016?
One might speculate that the "Sanders Revolution" is still going strong based upon the strong pull to the left that the Democratic Party has experienced since his first run.
 
New York Magazine is reporting on a state-by-state poll showing that, if Trump loses all the states where his current approval rating is under water, he would lose the general election by 300 electoral votes. Not too meaningful yet, of course, but he is definitely in serious trouble in some states he must win in any realistic scenario. Trump is losing the independents.
 
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One might speculate that the "Sanders Revolution" is still going strong based upon the strong pull to the left that the Democratic Party has experienced since his first run.

That's not the part of the revolution I'm referring to. There's no doubt some of Sanders' goals are being shared. I'm happy about all of that.

I'm talking about Sanders' answer when asked how is he going to accomplish his socialist-democratic goals and he answers, young people and all the folks that could vote but haven't.
 
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Caitlin Johnstone said:
[...] During the hottest and most contentious point in the 2016 presidential primary, Fair.org documented the fact that The Washington Post published no fewer than sixteen smear pieces about Sanders in the span of sixteen hours. This sixteen-hour window included Sanders’ debate with Hillary Clinton in the tightly contested state Michigan, where Sanders went on to score a narrow but hugely significant upset victory. To say that WaPo has a history of bias against Sanders is not conspiratorial, Trumpian or lacking in evidence, it’s an intellectually honest acknowledgement of an undeniable and well-documented fact.

As of this writing I have not yet seen a single one of the outlets decrying Sanders’ comments about The Washington Post make any reference at all to those sixteen WaPo smear pieces in sixteen hours. This is journalistic malpractice, as is the suggestion that there is no evidence of bias in WaPo’s reporting about Sanders. While huffily protesting the insinuation that a plutocrat-owned media outlet might not give honest coverage to a politician campaigning on the taxation of plutocrats, these media industrial complex narrative managers are themselves churning out dishonest coverage. They’re doing the thing that they insist they don’t do. [...]


"varwoche" read that and thought it was appropriate to insert a "nothing to see here" post.
 
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John Hickenlooper dropped out. Beto's apparently trying another relaunch. Warren may have opened up a pretty significant lead in Iowa.

A new Iowa Starting Line-Change Research poll shows the senator opening up a commanding lead in the Iowa Caucus. Warren was the top pick of 28% of likely Iowa Caucus-goers in the poll, an 11-point lead over the nearest competitor. Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders were both tied for second with 17% each. Pete Buttigieg came in fourth at 13% and Kamala Harris has the backing of 8%.

Both Cory Booker and Beto O’Rourke garnered 3% of caucus-goers’ support, while Steve Bullock, Tulsi Gabbard, Amy Klobuchar and Tom Steyer got on the board at 2%. Julian Castro, Michael Bennet and Andrew Yang rounded out the field at 1%, while everyone else had less than that.

So she's 26 points ahead of the greatest political machine I never heard of.
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That's not the part of the revolution I'm referring to. There's no doubt some of Sanders' goals are being shared. I'm happy about all of that.

I'm talking about Sanders' answer when asked how is he going to accomplish his socialist-democratic goals and he answers, young people and all the folks that could vote but haven't.

And I want to know who is he going to pay for all his goals.
More specifically, how he is going to prevent the big companies he is going to tax, like Amazon, from promptly just passing on the costs to it's customers?
 
New York Magazine is reporting on a state-by-state poll showing that, if Trump loses all the states where his current approval rating is under water, he would lose the general election by 300 electoral votes. Not too meaningful yet, of course, but he is definitely in serious trouble in some states he must win in any realistic scenario. Trump is losing the independents.

True, but the Democrats ,if they mess up the nomination, might cause independents to see Donnie as the lesser of two evils.
Taking away people's health care programs and replacing it with something which has not really been worked out yet is a recipe for disaster, and the pretty much is what the "Medicare For All In Four Year" is.
 
And I want to know who is he going to pay for all his goals.
More specifically, how he is going to prevent the big companies he is going to tax, like Amazon, from promptly just passing on the costs to it's customers?

He has taken credit for Amazon raising its employee wages. Did Amazon pass on this rise in wages to its consumers?

Besides, Amazon will probably want to remain competitive. Unless they have achieved a monopoly already, what would prevent them increasing their prices is that they don’t want their competitors to undercut them.

What do you suggest otherwise? Is it that big corporations ought to be able to use their size and influence to avoid paying any tax despite the fact that other people’s taxes allow a federal infrastructure that the companies disproportionately exploit?
 
True, but the Democrats ,if they mess up the nomination, might cause independents to see Donnie as the lesser of two evils.
Taking away people's health care programs and replacing it with something which has not really been worked out yet is a recipe for disaster, and the pretty much is what the "Medicare For All In Four Year" is.

Sanders proposes lowering the age at which people qualify for Medicare year by year. Does Medicare not really work for people now? Was LBJ wrong to introduce Medicare as something that hadn’t “been worked out yet”?
 
True, but the Democrats ,if they mess up the nomination, might cause independents to see Donnie as the lesser of two evils.
Taking away people's health care programs and replacing it with something which has not really been worked out yet is a recipe for disaster, and the pretty much is what the "Medicare For All In Four Year" is.

Taking away people's health care programs and replacing it with something which has not really been worked out yet ....

Why wouldn't that work. The same morons who voted for that idea in 2016 have gotten smarter? You are talking about the USA, you realize? These people voted for:

A Chicken in Every Pot
Secret Plan to end the war (who knew it was "Give up and let the enemy have the country).
Read My Lips, No New Taxes
My experts are working on....
>Tax Cuts for All
> Sooper Sekret New Improved Medicare
> A Bee-you-tee-ful Wall that Mexico Will Pay For
 
Medicare For All In Four Year

The Labour Party won the 1945 election.
In 1948 the NHS was set up and ready to go.

Sounds to me like the current US is a rather feeble entity if it can't provide MFA in a four year period when a post-war crippled economy managed to achieve just that.
 
Medicare For All In Four Year

The Labour Party won the 1945 election.
In 1948 the NHS was set up and ready to go.

Sounds to me like the current US is a rather feeble entity if it can't provide MFA in a four year period when a post-war crippled economy managed to achieve just that.

You misunderstand the point of healthcare. In other countries healthcare is to provide medical treatment and promote health. In the US the point of healthcare is to make enormous amounts of money for private individuals. Unless a healthcare proposal will make millions of dollars for people who are already millionaires it is a nonstarter here.
 
To comment on the Steyer billionaire issue a bit belatedly - I, personally, count "being a billionaire" as a negative. Not disqualifying, but problematic for a number of reasons. That's before getting to any concerns of the application of said wealth.
 
Follow-up by Caitlin: Former MSNBC Reporter Spills Details On Pro-Establishment Bias In Media

Caitlin Johnstone said:
The ridiculous corporate media freakout over Senator Bernie Sanders’ entirely legitimate accusations of pro-establishment bias continues today, with shrill, absurd new headlines like “Sanders campaign continues attacks on journalists” and “Bernie Sanders isn’t sorry” featuring hysterical MSM drama queens rending their garments over the suggestion that plutocrat-owned media outlets could be favorable to the plutocrat-owned establishment.

In response to this cartoonish display of billionaire-sponsored performance art, The Hill‘s Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjati aired a segment on their online show Rising which is as damning an exposé on the dynamics of mass media empire propaganda as we are ever likely to witness. With startling frankness and honesty, the pair disclose their experience with the way anyone who is critical of the establishment consensus is excluded from mainstream media platforms, as well as the way access journalism, financial incentives, prestige incentives and peer pressure are used to herd mainstream reporters into toeing the establishment line once they’re in.

I strongly urge you to watch the eight-minute segment for yourself, but I’ll be transcribing parts of it as well for those who prefer reading, as well as for posterity, because it really is that historically significant. I will surely be referring back to this segment in my arguments about plutocratic media bias for years to come, because it confirms and validates everything that analysts like Noam Chomsky have been saying about mass media propaganda like nothing else I’ve ever seen. Status quo propaganda is the underlying root of all our problems, and Ball and Enjati have gifted us with an invaluable tool for understanding and attacking it. [...]



I agree with her completely that the utterly corrupt state of media is the biggest problem of our democracies today and I don't think Trump is far off when he calls them the enemy of the people.
 
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