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Mosque attacked in Norway

Oh. Okay, that explains a lot, I guess, as far as that. To the extent madness can be explained at all, that is.
 
Chanakya said:
That reference to Valhalla? First, it was factual, actually about this person. And second, it was in response to your comment. Seems apt to me, the Valhalla thing, unlike your rant.
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The reference to Valhalla is quite important. It is known that some European white supremacists like to adopt new-age imitations of archaic Norse or Germanic paganism because they consider these "original white religions", unlike the Abrahamic faiths which originated from Jews and/or brown people.
 
Checkmite said:
The reference to Valhalla is quite important. It is known that some European white supremacists like to adopt new-age imitations of archaic Norse or Germanic paganism because they consider these "original white religions", unlike the Abrahamic faiths which originated from Jews and/or brown people.
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You know, in some bizarre kind of way, this does make sense! Method to madness, kind of thing.

I've often wondered how it is the white supremecist types reconcile worshipping a wholly brown ass, and aiming to base their lives on (some of) what this brown man of yore had allegedly taught. Those times I'd actually asked it of them, I've never got a clear answer.

So well, this does away with that contradiction, and goes back to sacrificing to the allfather instead. Like I said, makes sense in a weird kind of way.
 
I wouldn't put too much into his statement of "Valhalla awaits". He's Norwegian. It's part of our culture. It simply meant he was planning to die in battle.

His co-workers say he had become more religious lately, religious meaning Christian.
 
Even though Muslims were the intended target, I'm grateful and happy the attack was thwarted. What type of gun did the good guy use?
 
Samson said:
Innocent people are never to blame, but the religion of Islam brainwashes from the earliest age with complete falsehoods. Then there are sufficient numbers to use these against the perceived enemy. this is uncontroversial when simply observing recent attacks in America Europe and elsewhere. Far right extremists attack seldom and are immediately made accountable by their communities. Islamic terrorists are ignored by their communities for whatever reason.
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This is not a bad point. No one will balk at call this guy a terrorist or point out his beliefs played a direct role in bringing him to act. Of course they did, this is without question.

Whenever a Muslim does something like that, neither is true. Instead the tune is: "don't blame Islam", "terrorism has no religion", "poverty", "social exclusion", "Israel" and the like.

Nope. The cause in both instances is a xenophobic world view, amplified by the echo chamber that may also have a religious significance.

McHrozni
 
McHrozni said:
This is not a bad point. No one will balk at call this guy a terrorist or point out his beliefs played a direct role in bringing him to act. Of course they did, this is without question.
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You bet we won't. The shooter has been identified as a Christian, which means his actions can be entirely explained by it. It's not extremists who happen to belong to a particular religion that we have worry about, but Christianity itself.

The only question is, how do we cope?


Whenever a Muslim does something like that, neither is true. Instead the tune is: "don't blame Islam", "terrorism has no religion", "poverty", "social exclusion", "Israel" and the like.
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Correct. Whenever a Christian Muslim does something like this it's always because they were mentally ill, or had been oppressed by godless liberals and brown people Christians for too long and had just had enough.

Nope. The cause in both instances is a xenophobic world view, amplified by the echo chamber that may also have a religious significance.
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Well sure, but there's one religion that stands out as being more xenophobic. One religion that has been responsible for more genocides than any other - Christianity. And you can bet that no one will balk at calling it out for that.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
You bet we won't. The shooter has been identified as a Christian, which means his actions can be entirely explained by it.
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His actions will be entirely explained by Christianity when the shooter will be citing his Christian faith alone as the justification for his deeds.

You know, like the unmentionables.

Just saying.

Correct. Whenever a Christian Muslim does something like this it's always because they were mentally ill, or had been oppressed by godless liberals and brown people Christians for too long and had just had enough.
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Those are the usual talking points when a Muslim is involved, true. I happen to disagree with those. Don't you?

Well sure, but there's one religion that stands out as being more xenophobic. One religion that has been responsible for more genocides than any other - Christianity.
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Really? Can you provide the methodology you used to quantify xenophobia of various religions and the methodology you used to determine which religion was guilty of most genocides?

Don't spare me the details, I'm all ears.

McHrozni
 
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21-year-old Philip Manshaus will later today be charged with murder and terrorism.

He has so far refused to explain himself to the police. His lawyer says he will plead not guilty to the charges.
 
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McHrozni said:
His actions will be entirely explained by Christianity when the shooter will be citing his Christian faith alone as the justification for his deeds.

You know, like the unmentionables.

Just saying.



Those are the usual talking points when a Muslim is involved, true. I happen to disagree with those. Don't you?



Really? Can you provide the methodology you used to quantify xenophobia of various religions and the methodology you used to determine which religion was guilty of most genocides?

Don't spare me the details, I'm all ears.

McHrozni
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wow, you totally missed the sarcasm didn't you. If you seriously believe what you say, you're living in a different world to the rest of us.
 
PhantomWolf said:
If you seriously believe what you say, you're living in a different world to the rest of us.
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Not really, it's just that I think the fig leaf of religion isn't enough to make a xenophobic supremacist ideology inherently benign "because all religions are like that".

But you're free to believe whatever you want, no sweat. Just ask mr.Dubay.

McHrozni
 
Katie Hopkins putting in a strong performance for "worst hot take on the Norwegian mosque shooting" contest.

In response to reports that weapons were found at the mosque, Hopkins tweets:

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It should be noted that the weapons found at the mosque are almost certainly those that the attempted mass murdered brought with him.

Gotta admire the hustle here, few race-baiters show such effort.
 
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Yes, the shooter dropped both shotguns during the struggle. They are the weapons found.

However, I'm aware of no laws that make it illegal to store weapons in a mosque, as long as they are stored securely. Just like any other place.
 
Ryokan said:
I wouldn't put too much into his statement of "Valhalla awaits". He's Norwegian. It's part of our culture. It simply meant he was planning to die in battle.
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I've never heard a Norwegian say or seen one write that until now.

His co-workers say he had become more religious lately, religious meaning Christian.
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When white supremacists suddenly become Christians, it's usually a racist rather than a religious thing. It's not because they suddenly fall in love with Christ's message of brotherly love; it's because Christianity is Norwegian! It's like when all of a sudden they become obsessed with milk or pork: 'This is our Aryan culture! Love it or leave it!'
 
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