Jeffrey Epstein arrested for child sex trafficking

quadraginta said:
He's certainly been laying low. That in itself is suspicious.
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Would been simple given how incognito they would be now if JFK, Elvis and Andy Kaufman pretended to be retired prison guards on a sponsored tour of their old joint, with the endorsement from Trump and Clinton.

This is starting to get real
 
Venom said:
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to have a civil discussion about this guy and his supposed political connections on social media.
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Me too. Everyone seems convinced that Hillary had him whacked because we all know arranging a prison assassination of the most high profile prisoner in the nation is way easy for someone that successfully rigged a presidential election.






Oh....I'm being told she lost the election.
 
Venom said:
Epstein was a wealthy socialite with 1000s of friends.

Idiots: "Oh **** here's a picture of Epstein with _______!!"
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Not just friends, but probably more commonly hanger ons and groupies who were just looking to benefit from his wealth, status and connections.

That's exactly how he himself got rich: he became a close asociate and eventual friend of Lex Wesner, somehow managing to get his power of attorney which he used for self-enrichment, even though there doesn't seem to be any good reason for giving him that.
 
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Arcade22 said:
Not just friends, but probably more commonly hanger ons and groupies who were just looking to benefit from his wealth, status and connections.
That's exactly how he himself got rich: he became a close asociate and eventual friend of Lex Wesner, somehow managing to get his power of attorney which he used for self-enrichment, even though there doesn't seem to be any good reason for giving him that.
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I would have said just old rich influential dudes wanting to shag under age girls, but I get your point
 
cullennz said:
I would have said just old rich influential dudes wanting to shag under age girls, but I get your point
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Yes, the people who were more often rich enough to be able to travel and live abroad at their leisure, including in countries where it would not be illegal to have sex with teenagers aged 14 and older, would still be dependent on Jeffrey Epstein to find said teenagers for sex. Again it's this part that really stands out in his behavior: Epstein should've been able to avoid much of criminal liability involved had he not insisted on doing it in the US. That's what smart rich people do.
 
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Arcade22 said:
Yes, the people who were more often rich enough to be able to travel and live abroad at their leisure, including in countries where it would not be illegal to have sex with teenagers aged 14 and older, would still be dependent on Jeffrey Epstein to find said teenagers for sex. Again it's this part that really stands out in his behavior: Epstein should've been able to avoid much of criminal liability involved had he not insisted on doing it in the US. That's what smart rich people do.
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Who said anything about smart?
 
This is The End said:
How do you go from him claiming he was beat up to that?
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Epstein claimed he was beat up (according to news reports). Even so, some speculated that the incident was actually a "failed hit".

I am questioning the latter speculation by pointing out the lack of evidence that "failed hits" that leave so little evidence are an actual thing that happens. Epstein was found on the floor of his cell with a bruise on his neck. That means whoever supposedly attacked Epstein wasn't interrupted mid-act, but rather had time to complete his "work" to his satisfaction and leave of his own volition. If all Epstein had at the end of it was a bruise, the most reasonable interpretation is that that's all the attacker intended. If the attacker had intended to kill Epstein, Epstein would have been dead.
 
Checkmite said:
Epstein claimed he was beat up (according to news reports). Even so, some speculated that the incident was actually a "failed hit".

I am questioning the latter speculation by pointing out the lack of evidence that "failed hits" that leave so little evidence are an actual thing that happens. Epstein was found on the floor of his cell with a bruise on his neck. That means whoever supposedly attacked Epstein wasn't interrupted mid-act, but rather had time to complete his "work" to his satisfaction and leave of his own volition. If all Epstein had at the end of it was a bruise, the most reasonable interpretation is that that's all the attacker intended. If the attacker had intended to kill Epstein, Epstein would have been dead.
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It gets to quite an elaborate assassination plan that provides a false non-lethal attack followed by the actual hit.
 
Checkmite said:
Epstein claimed he was beat up (according to news reports). Even so, some speculated that the incident was actually a "failed hit".

I am questioning the latter speculation by pointing out the lack of evidence that "failed hits" that leave so little evidence are an actual thing that happens. Epstein was found on the floor of his cell with a bruise on his neck. That means whoever supposedly attacked Epstein wasn't interrupted mid-act, but rather had time to complete his "work" to his satisfaction and leave of his own volition. If all Epstein had at the end of it was a bruise, the most reasonable interpretation is that that's all the attacker intended. If the attacker had intended to kill Epstein, Epstein would have been dead.
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Maybe, maybe not. Most people don't know how long it takes to strangle someone, movies/tv make it seem like it takes less than a minute and shortly after they lose consciousness it's good to let go.
 
theprestige said:
What's Trump's role in suit?
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I suggest you look at pages 2 and 3

I can't quote the allegations because of the obscenity rules.

Darat said:
That he engaged in sex with under age of consent females.
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It's more than that. It's not "merely" statutory rape, but actual forcing someone who was saying no.

ETA: She has another witness - a former employee of Epstein.
It was at these series of parties that I personally witnessed the Plaintiff being forced to perform

various sexual acts with Donald J. Trump and Mr. Epstein. Both Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein were
advised that she was 13 years old.
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I personally witnessed four sexual encounters that the Plaintiff was forced to have with Mr.

Trump during this period, including the fourth of these encounters where Mr. Trump forcibly raped her
despite her pleas to stop.
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Silly Green Monkey said:
Maybe, maybe not. Most people don't know how long it takes to strangle someone, movies/tv make it seem like it takes less than a minute and shortly after they lose consciousness it's good to let go.
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If the idea is that somebody on the inside was hired by extremely influential persons to commit this assassination, it's not very plausible the person they would choose is some moron in for tax evasion whose knowledge about killing people comes from television.
 
Quick straw-poll;

- do you accept as true the allegations that Epstein ran what amounted to a bordello on a private island, which he 'stocked' with underage girls?

- did a substantial number of (wealthy and influential) associates of his, including some very famous names, make use of this bordello and the girls?

- alternatively, were some/most/all of these names (logged on flights to the island, some numerous times) there for completely innocent reasons?

His 'associations' are being danced around somewhat in the corporate media (surprise, surprise) here in the UK, with the exception of the national network news programs repeatedly running footage of Epstein and Trump together sometime in the 1980's (even more surprising!).
 
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