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This came up as I was reading some other article linked to from this forum. I think it makes some very fair points. Some people were incensed by a 5-word headline: "Trump urges unity vs. racism." It was what literally happened. But some people piled on - how dare anyone write a positive headline, even if this is exactly what a Trump speech said?

What liberals are getting wrong about the Times headline

I want to see Trump gone as much as anyone, but I think demanding ideological purity on the part of a news outlet sends us into an unproductive spiral. It's not enough to be anti-Trump, you have to be viciously anti-Trump. Must every sin be brought up even in a straight article covering a mundane speech? Not every single headline has to be about how evil he is. My $.02.

It would be accurate if he were actually emotional or even slightly normal about it (as a better example, see...any candidate on the democratic side), instead of a wooden, plainly insincere reading of something that had been written by someone on his staff as a pathetic attempt at damage control. I watched it (I rarely listen to him, since he typically veers from bigotry to emoting to gibbering, often with much walking around like he thinks he just said something incredibly intelligent). And no, I would not say that he actually "urged" anything in that speech.

No, he read a short part about "unity vs. racism" - and then read a lot about "our culture of violence" (notwithstanding the many times he has actually urged people to beat up protestors) and "mental health" (never mind how he urged republicans to take away mental health care access for many Americans).

If you want to see presidents who actually urge unity in the face of tragedy, both GWB and especially Obama were very good at this at various points when the need arose - shootings, terror attacks, natural disasters.

I realize that headline writers are often the lowest-ranked person in the newsroom, and whip up something that the editing team wants, rather than the article writer, but this is important, because many people only read the headline, and possibly the first paragraph, of a news article. So a misleading headline (and it was definitely misleading) can leave many people with a false impression of what happened. People should read more than the headline, sure - but they often don't.
 
How about: "Trump speech: Unity not racism needed."

That wouldn't irritate me like the headline they chose did.
In later editions they changed it to "Assailing Hate, But Not Guns." Which is fine with me. The first didn't really bother me either, though.

Every once in a while Trump is going to be given a reasonably good speech and stay on script. I don't know who writes those, and why it doesn't temper the rest of his rhetoric. But it seems that whenever he manages to show some restraint, he has to make up for it by immediately going back to his usual dog whistles (or worse).
 
I realize that headline writers are often the lowest-ranked person in the newsroom, and whip up something that the editing team wants, rather than the article writer, but this is important, because many people only read the headline, and possibly the first paragraph, of a news article.
I agree with most of what you say, but copy editors aren't low-ranking employees ;) and they are very much part of the "editing team." Multiple people, probably including the managing editor, had to sign off on that headline. Then they rethought it and came up with "Assailing Hate, But Not Guns" for later editions. It happens; you strike a note that you think is OK, then have second thoughts.

But as I said to SG, now he'll be back to his usual, or worse.

ETA: Copy editing is a wonderful job. Read something, think about it for a few minutes, then write 5 words. It was a high point in my journalistic career. When reporting, if possible I followed the article through the headline-writing process and would speak up if I was unhappy.
 
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If you want to see presidents who actually urge unity in the face of tragedy, both GWB and especially Obama were very good at this at various points when the need arose - shootings, terror attacks, natural disasters.
Because they had empathy. Early on I thought Trump might have some too. Not so much anymore.
 
Trump Tweets

I am pleased to inform you that the Honorable Joseph Maguire, current Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, will be named Acting Director of National Intelligence, effective August 15th. Admiral Maguire has a long and distinguished....

....career in the military, retiring from the U.S. Navy in 2010. He commanded at every level, including the Naval Special Warfare Command. He has also served as a National Security Fellow at Harvard University. I have no doubt he will do a great job!
 
Suppose the headline said, "Trump reports being welcomed in El Paso". If I read that I wouldn't think the Times was falsely reporting that he was welcomed.

The objectionable headline: "Trump Urges Unity vs. Racism.” Couldn't the Times have qualified the headline a bit better making it clear these were Trump's words, not necessarily a fact?

How about: "Trump speech: Unity not racism needed."

That wouldn't irritate me like the headline they chose did.

I just don't think they should ever put "Trump" and "urges" together like that, not with his history. The less we hear about his urges the better.
 
In later editions they changed it to "Assailing Hate, But Not Guns." Which is fine with me. The first didn't really bother me either, though.

Every once in a while Trump is going to be given a reasonably good speech and stay on script. I don't know who writes those, and why it doesn't temper the rest of his rhetoric. But it seems that whenever he manages to show some restraint, he has to make up for it by immediately going back to his usual dog whistles (or worse).
This was not that.
 
The El Paso visit showed Donnie at this worst.
I really want to see how his worshippers here defend his making this about the size of his crowds.
 
Because they had empathy. Early on I thought Trump might have some too. Not so much anymore.

Empathy and Narcissism don't go together.
That is what is amazing about Trump. His narcissism makes him do crap that is not in his own best political interests.
 
Trump Tweets

South Korea has agreed to pay substantially more money to the United States in order to defend itself from North Korea. Over the past many decades, the U.S. has been paid very little by South Korea, but last year, at the request of President Trump, South Korea paid $990,000,000..

...Talks have begun to further increase payments to the United States. South Korea is a very wealthy nation that now feels an obligation to contribute to the military defense provided by the United States of America. The relationship between the two countries is a very good one!

Imagine if Trump was in the place of Truman and he refused to assist South Korea when it was invaded by North Korea only because it wouldn't pay enough money to America.
 
I'm not downplaying Trump's rhetoric, but the man in the article did suffer a severe frontal lobe trauma years ago which has affected his ability to make rational decisions. It's why he was discharged from the Army.
That guy needs a better attorney, or at least a different attorney. I can't imagine "Trump made him do it" is going to be much of a defense.
 
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article...5GBgKgayvN3VwO7vZ38OY4O0GK-Gzu5F5tVgXeQed8Q_Q

Is anyone surprised that the magascum who fractured a boy's skull in Montana was following Trump's lead?

I'm not downplaying Trump's rhetoric, but the man in the article did suffer a severe frontal lobe trauma years ago which has affected his ability to make rational decisions. It's why he was discharged from the Army.


Yeah. I thought that was interesting, too.

The gist of his lawyer's defence, it seems, is that the guy is brain damaged and that caused him to listen to Trump.

In a sick, twisted way it is almost plausible.

Definitely says a lot about Trump supporters.
 
The gist of his lawyer's defence, it seems, is that the guy is brain damaged and that caused him to listen to Trump.
Which of course leads to further brain damage.

It's funny to read responses to Trump tweets. It seems to me detractors far outnumber supporters - or maybe it was just for the Dayton photo op ...

What an ass this man is.
 
I'm not downplaying Trump's rhetoric, but the man in the article did suffer a severe frontal lobe trauma years ago which has affected his ability to make rational decisions. It's why he was discharged from the Army.
Which makes it even more reprehensible that Trump, without hesitation, recruits such damaged people.
 
A real president would have jumped on this right away and told his supporters to knock that **** off quick. It's what Bush or McCain would have done.
 
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