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Today's Mass Shooting

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Belz... said:
It's not a quote from him, from what I understand, but someone's comment about where his stupid logic leads.
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Note that they have had instances of "rampage killings" and mass murderers in Japan, but i don't think there have any any instances of them using guns. Instead they have used knives and cars, which are generally a whole lot less effective in killing people (with some exceptions).

It should also be noted here that Japan does censors violence in video and computer games, perhaps to a greater deal compared with most western countries.

For example, in the western version of "Resident evil 7", one individual has half of his head severed with a shovel but this scene was modified in the Japanese version to make it less gruesome. Later on in the game you are supposed to find this persons now severed head in a fridge, but they replaced that with a very generic picture of his face crossed out.

So basically violence and gore is more censored in Japan (at least in the case of Resident evil 7, i can't say how very strict it is in general) but there are still cases of people running amok and going on a murderous rampage. Yet very few, if any, have done so with firearms. In fact gun crimes is very uncommon and rare in Japan.
 
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I'm morbidly curious about how prehistoric humans handled these rampage killings, which, in all likelihood, probably occurred at some level.

Probably a lot easier to stop and didn't ever make the news.
 
Since they didn't have access to guns, doubtlessly a hell of a lot fewer people died during the rampage before the crazed human was subdued.
 
Venom said:
I'm morbidly curious about how prehistoric humans handled these rampage killings, which, in all likelihood, probably occurred at some level.

Probably a lot easier to stop and didn't ever make the news.
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This is still pre-history as far as humans are concerned. We aren't done evolving, hopefully. :(
 
Checkmite said:
Since they didn't have access to guns, doubtlessly a hell of a lot fewer people died during the rampage before the crazed human was subdued.
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I don't know if we've found any direct evidence of a single spree killer attacking a group of people, but we do know groups attacked each other, and left whole families or small tribes dead.

Even without guns, people who want to kill other people find ways to do it, and have done so for 10,000 years or longer.

Some bedtime reading:

https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/10-000-year-old-mass-murder-found-in-kenya-1.5393029

https://gizmodo.com/5-000-year-old-grave-reveals-mass-murder-of-a-bronze-ag-1834730007

A very interesting take on the subject:
https://dodoma.com/2019/06/20/did-p...reate-conservatives-liberals-and-homosexuals/
 
Dr.Sid said:
2nd amendment must go. No other country has anything like that, and you know what it leads to ? Less dead people.
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That's probably never gonna happen; and certainly not within the foreseeable future.

We have to find other ways to solve the problem and prevent these things.
 
The GOP is coming for your video games!!!

Trump, McCarthy cite video games as a driver behind mass shootings

"We must stop the glorification of violence in our society," Trump said in remarks from the White House Monday morning as part of a list of efforts he believes the nation must take. "This includes the gruesome and grisly video games that are now commonplace."

He added, "It is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Trump did not mention specific measures to limit access to firearms except proposing "red flag" laws that would prevent access to people who are mentally ill.

McCarthy, a California Republican, also cited video games as a driver behind gun violence in an interview with Fox News on Sunday.

"But the idea of these video games that dehumanize individuals to have a game of shooting individuals and others -- I've always felt that is a problem for future generations and others. We've watched from studies shown before of what it does to individuals. When you look at these photos of how it took place, you can see the actions within video games and others," McCarthy said.

Hillary Clinton, who unsuccessfully challenged Trump in the 2016 presidential race, dismissed video games as a possible reason for the shootings.

"People suffer from mental illness in every other country on earth; people play video games in virtually every other country on earth. The difference is the guns," she tweeted Monday afternoon.

It was not immediately clear if video games played any role in the weekend's carnage.
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So, if they really mean it about the video games and aren't just flapping their gums, then what do they plan to do about it? My guess is that this idea will go no farther than lip service. I mean, he literally said that something must be done "immediately." OK, what do you propose to do to stop it?

How would "We're the party who banned first-person shooters" play as a campaign slogan in 2020?

Besides Trump and McCarthy, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick also blamed video games for the shooting.

Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, a Republican, told "FOX & Friends" Sunday morning that the mass shooting the previous day at an El Paso Wal-Mart was partially the result of the murderer living out a "super-soldier fantasy" he had learned from the video game series "Call Of Duty."

"This was maybe a video game to this evil demon. A video game to him. He has no sense of humanity, no sense of life. He wanted to be a super soldier, for his Call of Duty game," he said about the shooter. "As long as we continue to only praise God and look at God on a Sunday morning and kick him out of the town square at our schools the other six days of the week, what do we expect?"
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Yeah, the public schools need to include religious indoctrination too I suppose. That'll fix it.
 
crescent said:
Checkmite said:
Here's a less-blurry image of the kind of drum-magazine the Daytona shooter was using with his weapon. Look at this damn thing.

[qimg]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBJuZAGWsAciB5u.jpg[/qimg]

Some absolute penis is selling these things while saying "self-defense!" with a wink and a grin, like the makers of all these kinds of mods do.
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Those are probably selling like hotcakes now.

Anytime any mass shooter uses anything novel, people run out to buy them. Disgusting people, that is.
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I bet they'd look really cool on a pistol.

:(
 
DragonLady said:
I don't know if we've found any direct evidence of a single spree killer attacking a group of people, but we do know groups attacked each other, and left whole families or small tribes dead.

Even without guns, people who want to kill other people find ways to do it, and have done so for 10,000 years or longer.

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Not ways that would let some kid manage 30 dead and wounded in as many seconds, though.
 
BStrong said:
Frags (and for that matter any grenade w/ a potential anti-personnel use, wp, thermite etc.) are manufactured for government issue only - even going back before the N.F.A. explosive materials were available across the counter but any explosive device (artillery shells primarily pre-'34) designed for U.S. military use have not been sold to civilians.
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Yes in the 20th century but what about the 18th and 19th? It is really academic, though certainly some second amendment proponents argue for such devices to be legal for civilians, they seem to have little political traction.
 
Venom said:
I'm morbidly curious about how prehistoric humans handled these rampage killings, which, in all likelihood, probably occurred at some level.

Probably a lot easier to stop and didn't ever make the news.
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Well they seem to be fairly cultural, the moro had such a practice in the Philipines for example.
 
quadraginta said:
Not ways that would let some kid manage 30 dead and wounded in as many seconds, though.
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In theory a kid with a bomb could achieve the same result. Reality is that we have fairly effective bomb control. You can’t just walk into the bomb store and pick one up. Building an effective and reliable bomb requires skills and attention to detail that most spree killers don’t have.
 
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