2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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For those who've missed it, Tulsi Gabbard is the chosen Democratic candidate for Russian disinformation. Hence our resident Pravda mouthpiece linking to a gamed poll as if it were legit.

Damned if I know why though. I'm curious about it. Why her? Is it the Assad thing you mentioned? Is she best buds with Bashar?
 
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Brainster said:
It is simultaneously the single greatest strength and the single greatest weakness of the Left that they refuse to learn the lessons of the past. Part of it is that learning is essentially a conservative undertaking. It is accepting that the people of the past (who originally did the hard work of figuring stuff out) actually have some information that may be useful.
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With Donald Trump the epitome of generations of wisdom?
 
Tulsi Gabbard wasn't quick to condemn Assad's regime for the 2017 incident because of uncertainty around a similar event in another Syrian city in 2013.

I don't hold it against Tulsi that much.

Her lawsuit against Google though is just weird but not unexpected.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
For those who've missed it, Tulsi Gabbard is the chosen Democratic candidate for Russian disinformation. Hence our resident Pravda mouthpiece linking to a gamed poll as if it were legit.

Damned if I know why though. I'm curious about it. Why her? Is it the Assad thing you mentioned? Is she best buds with Bashar?
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Maybe she had Russian prostitutes pee all over a bed that Obama supposedly slept in...and they filmed it.
 
Venom said:
Tulsi Gabbard wasn't quick to condemn Assad's regime for the 2017 incident because of uncertainty around a similar event in another Syrian city in 2013.

I don't hold it against Tulsi that much.

Her lawsuit against Google though is just weird but not unexpected.
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I have a strong feeling that if Gabbard had endorsed and campaigned for Clinton and not Sanders in 2016, none of her supposed failings would be considered a big deal now.
 
Kamala seemed at times like she was running against Obama. That strikes me as a high-risk strategy.
 
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Kamala seemed at times like she was running against Obama. That strikes me as a high-risk strategy.
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Thanks for reminding me!

On my way through the caf today, I saw a TV screen showing what looked like a press conference, with a caption saying something about Harris having nothing but respect for Obama. Harris was on screen, and had a pretty serious expression on her face. I meant to come here and see if anyone knew what that was about.

So.

What was that about?

Is Harris having to backpedal from a Kinsley gaffe?
 
The Best Guide for the Perplexed Progressive in 2020 is 2016

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[...] In 2016 Bernie Sanders was the only politician who was willing to take on the Establishment. Although not technically a Democrat, he caucused with them and worked with them. And he was a lifelong, reliable and ardent advocate for Medicare for All and a consistent opponent of the endless wars. For these things he was prepared to do battle against overwhelming odds on the chance that he might prevail and because from his grass roots contacts he sensed that a rebellion was brewing.

In 2016 only one among the current crop of candidates followed Bernie, supported him and joined him on the campaign trail – Tulsi Gabbard. At the time she was a two term Congresswoman and Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), a career building position, from which she would have to resign in order to support one of the candidates. Moreover, reports said she bridled at the internal bias of the DNC in favor of Hillary. To express her displeasure with the DNC and to support Bernie, she had to defy the Clinton Establishment, which might even have terminated her political career. But she was a foe of the endless wars, partly based on her own experience as a National Guard member who had been deployed to Iraq in a medical unit and saw the ravages of war first hand. So she joined Bernie, introducing him at many of his rallies and strengthening his antiwar message.

Bernie and Tulsi proved themselves in the defining battle of 2016. They let us know unequivocally where they stand. And Bernie might well have won the nomination were he not cheated out of it by the Establishment which continues to control the levers of power in the Democratic Party to this day. [...]
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And when it was revealed how he was cheated instead of making a stink about it, Bernie turned around and endorsed Killary. He has proven that he has not the cojones it takes to become POTUS, and in addition in 2019/2020 he is just too old. What he must do now is drop out of the race A$AP and ask his supporters to carry Tulsi to the victory she has everything tto accomplish, contrary to the rest of the gang who are just automatons Trump will make mice meat of except Yang who has no chance for different reasons.

BERNIE FOR TULSI 2020!!!
 
Childlike Empress said:
The Best Guide for the Perplexed Progressive in 2020 is 2016

And when it was revealed how he was cheated instead of making a stink about it, Bernie turned around and endorsed Killary. He has proven that he has not the cojones it takes to become POTUS, and in addition in 2019/2020 he is just too old. What he must do now is drop out of the race A$AP and ask his supporters to carry Tulsi to the victory she has everything tto accomplish, contrary to the rest of the gang who are just automatons Trump will make mice meat of except Yang who has no chance for different reasons.

BERNIE FOR TULSI 2020!!!
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Cute, but no cigar. :(

Tulsi is clinging onto single digits. Bernie Sanders has gotten so far already and is far more versatile.

BERNIE SANDERS 2020!
 
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Tulsi is clinging onto single digits. Bernie Sanders has gotten so far already and is far more versatile.
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Because the machine does everything to keep her as unknown as possible. And as soon as she gets some exposure, people are eager to find out more about her. Which Google and now Twitter find so threatening that they suspend her ad campaign or manipulate the trending charts. Should Bernie endorse her, the whole game changes.
 
I caught the second debate. It was sad to see CNN and moderates embrace Republican framing on health care. Harris under-performed for me. Biden fought back enough to stay on top. It seemed everyone was trying to replicate Harris's slam from last debate.
 
Biden would have been better off telling everyone, "listen you bunch of lightweights, governing is hard. You don't get to choose you who you do it with and you don't get to decide how they'll vote. So, you make choices, hard decisions, compromises. You deal with people repugnant to you. We did the ADA because that's what we could do. We did the 1994 crime bill because that was the best option on the table." That sort of response is really what will keep the more progressive candidates down.
 
Craig4 said:
Biden would have been better off telling everyone, "listen you bunch of lightweights, governing is hard. You don't get to choose you who you do it with and you don't get to decide how they'll vote. So, you make choices, hard decisions, compromises. You deal with people repugnant to you. We did the ADA because that's what we could do. We did the 1994 crime bill because that was the best option on the table." That sort of response is really what will keep the more progressive candidates down.
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Yeah, taking paternalistic jabs at progressives will really win them over.
 
Craig4 said:
Who cares? It's 88,000 people in three states he has to worry about. Well, actually, those 88,000 skewed older; so thankfully some of them have died in the interim.
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Electoral targets are moving targets. 4 years was already getting to be a long time, I think this cycle will come close to being like putting a new operating system on old hardware. It will have a few underlying familiar hints of how things used to operate, but we'll have to learn this whole new way of interpreting data.

ETA: and then we get to do redistricting...oh the fun that will be.
 
theprestige said:
Thanks for reminding me!

On my way through the caf today, I saw a TV screen showing what looked like a press conference, with a caption saying something about Harris having nothing but respect for Obama. Harris was on screen, and had a pretty serious expression on her face. I meant to come here and see if anyone knew what that was about.

So.

What was that about?

Is Harris having to backpedal from a Kinsley gaffe?
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IIRC she was critical of the ACA, possibly also over the deportations under Obama. It's not something you are likely to applaud her for; it was an attack from the left. Discussion here.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Because the machine does everything to keep her as unknown as possible. And as soon as she gets some exposure, people are eager to find out more about her. Which Google and now Twitter find so threatening that they suspend her ad campaign or manipulate the trending charts...
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....or because of a broken ad review system. She and her zealots forget that Gabbard's campaign isn't the first to encounter problems like this.
 
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