Cont: Trans Women are not Women II: The Bath Of Khan

[theprestige]

Bizarrely, I'm already in a position where I could identify as one of the alphabet soup if I chose. I choose not to.

Since I can pass as a straight white male, I'd be a fool to identify as anything less.

 

[d4m10n]

Since I can pass as a straight white male, I'd be a fool to identify as anything less.

Can't tell if sarcastic, b/c www.

My son has no trouble passing as well, but I wouldn't ever advise him to deny his Native American and Puerto Rican heritage.

 

[Marcus]

Since I can pass as a straight white male, I'd be a fool to identify as anything less.

I have a hard time seeing how being a straight white male is an advantage these days. In past times, sure. Now I feel more like a minority group. In fact, I'm quite sure that demographic is a minority

 

[theprestige]

Can't tell if sarcastic, b/c www.

My son has no trouble passing as well, but I wouldn't ever advise him to deny his Native American and Puerto Rican heritage.

Little bit sarcastic. If we accept the "privilege" framing, then anything other than straight white male is a state of lesser privilege.

 

[The Atheist]

I have a hard time seeing how being a straight white male is an advantage these days. In past times, sure. Now I feel more like a minority group. In fact, I'm quite sure that demographic is a minority

Yeah, it's tough being a white bloke, having all those centuries of privilege that means we're automatically seen as more authoritative, get the pick of the best women and run almost everything.

I'm thinking about starting a support group.

 

[Robin]

2S = Two-Spirited

Kind of America-centric

+ = other identities not listed.

Like het?

 

[quadraginta]

2S = Two-Spirited

Kind of America-centric


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I don't see why. It is a concept found in societies all over the world. Even patriarchal ones.

Judeo-Christian and Abrahamic cultures are more the exception to that than the rule.

 

[theprestige]

I have a hard time seeing how being a straight white male is an advantage these days. In past times, sure. Now I feel more like a minority group. In fact, I'm quite sure that demographic is a minority

μολων λαβε

 

[caveman1917]

I don't see why. It is a concept found in societies all over the world. Even patriarchal ones.

Only in patriarchal ones, apparently.

What’s instead true is that American Indian nations that had more rigid gender roles and assigned women less power historically felt the need to strip male/female identities from non-conformers, while more egalitarian societies with less gender socialization lack two-spirit people because of, rather than in spite of, their lack of emphasis on sex-assigned gender roles.

 

[Marcus]

μολων λαβε

"Come and take them"? Not sure what that means in this context but at least it's not an insult.

 

[theprestige]

"Come and take them"? Not sure what that means in this context but at least it's not an insult.

It's not about being the majority demographic. It's about having the majority of the privileges.

Come and take the privileges. It's a bit of a non sequitur, though. Sorry about that.

 

[quadraginta]

It's not about being the majority demographic. It's about having the majority of the privileges.

Come and take the privileges. It's a bit of a non sequitur, though. Sorry about that.

In a way that is exactly what is happening to the poor, abused, misunderstood snowflakes.

Their privilege is gradually being taken away. Eroded a little bit at a time. Can't hire whoever they want. Can't rent or sell to whoever they want. Can't keep the brown people out of their schools or neighborhoods or clubs.

They used to be able to throw them out of town at sundown. Now they have to live next door to them. They used to be able to keep them off of juries. Now they can't even keep them off the bench. They used to be able to keep them from voting at all. Now they lose elections to them.

It's a terrible thing, loss of privilege.

 

[d4m10n]

Their privilege is gradually being taken away. Eroded a little bit at a time. Can't hire whoever they want. Can't rent or sell to whoever they want. Can't keep the brown people out of their schools or neighborhoods or clubs.

Difficult at this point to avoid analogy to the safe spaces discussed upthread.

 

[The Atheist]

 

[theprestige]

In a way that is exactly what is happening to the poor, abused, misunderstood snowflakes.

Their privilege is gradually being taken away. Eroded a little bit at a time. Can't hire whoever they want. Can't rent or sell to whoever they want. Can't keep the brown people out of their schools or neighborhoods or clubs.

They used to be able to throw them out of town at sundown. Now they have to live next door to them. They used to be able to keep them off of juries. Now they can't even keep them off the bench. They used to be able to keep them from voting at all. Now they lose elections to them.

It's a terrible thing, loss of privilege.

Weird flex, but okay.

 

[The Atheist]

Then, there's the trans woman who's claiming hate crimes because female beauticians won't wax its pubic hair: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/27/male-genitalia-week-in-patriarchy-women

My suggestion is a woman should offer to wax its scrotal area, but heat the wax to a 212 degrees Celsius, then claim to have mixed up the scales.

Piece of garbage, doing real harm to actual transgender women.

 

[JihadJane]

Then, there's the trans woman who's claiming hate crimes because female beauticians won't wax its pubic hair: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/27/male-genitalia-week-in-patriarchy-women

My suggestion is a woman should offer to wax its scrotal area, but heat the wax to a 212 degrees Celsius, then claim to have mixed up the scales.

Piece of garbage, doing real harm to actual transgender women.

 

[Ziggurat]

What's your point? That women should be forced to touch make genitals of in the name of acceptance?

 

[Giz]

What's your point? That women should be forced to touch make genitals of in the name of acceptance?

Ahem, those are female balls

 

[Steve]

Ahem, those are female balls

Of course they are.