"SEND HER BACK!" Will they defend this?

d4m10n said:
If you had to prove in court that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi was indeed biologically related to Congresswoman Omar, what non-hypothetical documentation would you present to the finder of fact?
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I don't believe you need to demonstrate that he's her brother in order to prove marriage fraud. To obtain her divorce, she swore she couldn't contact him. But I believe there are contemporary pictures of them together.
 
Ziggurat said:
I don't believe you need to demonstrate that he's her brother in order to prove marriage fraud. To obtain her divorce, she swore she couldn't contact him. But I believe there are contemporary pictures of them together.
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Fair enough, but just now I'm trying to understand where this claim of unlawfully consanguineous marriage is really coming from.

Here is the relevant claim from the Judicial Watch filing mentioned upthread:
Documented-based reporting by Steinberg, et al. has developed the following information: Rep. Ilhan Abdullahi Omar, a citizen of the United States, married her biological brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a citizen of the United Kingdom, in 2009, presumably as part of an immigration fraud scheme.
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johnny karate said:
What's great is that this unsubstantiated goofball crap is from someone who thinks that Russian election interference is a hoax.

It truly boggles the mind that there are people in the world who can still function while being burdened with this much cognitive dissonance and lack of self-awareness.
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It is a hoax, as presented by Democrats and fake news, of that there is no doubt. Even Obama said there was no way Russians could fix the election. The "Mueller" investigation was a hoax as well. He said he had never heard of Fusion GPS, and there were many other things he said yesterday that showed he wasn't running the investigation. It was all lies, which is why they found nothing. My favorite was him saying the "dossier" - the "evidence" provided by Hillary - wasn't in his purview but we know he thought Manafort's taxes were. LOL. BTW, "The Russia Hoax" by Gregg Jarrett was published over a year ago.
 
d4m10n said:
Fair enough, but just now I'm trying to understand where this claim of unlawfully consanguineous marriage is really coming from.

Here is the relevant claim from the Judicial Watch filing mentioned upthread:
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The Steinberg stories can be found here:
https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/...jury-evidence-blacked-out-by-minnesota-media/
https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/...that-rep-ilhan-omar-d-mn-married-her-brother/
https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/...first-husband-throughout-her-second-marriage/
https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/...an-omar-as-she-deletes-social-media-evidence/
 
Minoosh said:
The grain of truth is in her murky marriage/tax-filing status. But many things you are taking as gospel just aren't substantiated. She hasn't volunteered info on her taxes/personal life and at this point isn't required to.
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I'm pretty sure there's some kind of precedent for US politicians not making their tax records public.
 
 
Ziggurat said:
Yes. Multiple lines of evidence, including social media posts by both Ilhan and Elmi. See the above links for details.
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Thanks, but I came across too many questionable assertions at those links before actually finding something relevant to the claim and gave up. Also, I just looked up PJ Media. Wouldn't be my go to place when asked to find a reliable source.
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
Thanks, but I came across too many questionable assertions at those links before actually finding something relevant to the claim and gave up. Also, I just looked up PJ Media. Wouldn't be my go to place when asked to find a reliable source.
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Yeah, I see the author stating "there is evidence" of this, that, or the other. Never saw any of said evidence.

When I saw "original documentary evidence" I thought it meant documents and such. Turns out it is the equivalent of "someone blogging about it."

Even if some things are true, like remaining married for financial benefits even though the relationship is over and new romantic relationships forming, so what. Life is muddled with these "I kinda hate you, but we can still be decent and civil enough with each other to get our life goals accomplished" decisions.

This is trying to turn moral outrage into credibility. The author is a stain on their profession.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
It is a hoax, as presented by Democrats and fake news, of that there is no doubt. Even Obama said there was no way Russians could fix the election. The "Mueller" investigation was a hoax as well. He said he had never heard of Fusion GPS, and there were many other things he said yesterday that showed he wasn't running the investigation. It was all lies, which is why they found nothing. My favorite was him saying the "dossier" - the "evidence" provided by Hillary - wasn't in his purview but we know he thought Manafort's taxes were. LOL. BTW, "The Russia Hoax" by Gregg Jarrett was published over a year ago.
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johnny karate said:
It truly boggles the mind that there are people in the world who can still function while being burdened with this much cognitive dissonance and lack of self-awareness.
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Delphic Oracle said:
Even if some things are true, like remaining married for financial benefits even though the relationship is over and new romantic relationships forming, so what. Life is muddled with these "I kinda hate you, but we can still be decent and civil enough with each other to get our life goals accomplished" decisions.

This is trying to turn moral outrage into credibility. The author is a stain on their profession.
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To take it even further, hasn't it been shown the Congress has a slush fund to pay off lawsuits? Including those brought for sexual harassment?

Oh yeah!

He likely isn’t the only member of Congress to settle a harassment case. Since 1997, Congress has paid at least $15 million to settle complaints about sexual harassment, racial discrimination, and violations of the Americans With Disabilities Act under the umbrella of the Congressional Accountability Act (CAA) of 1995.

The payments made to Rep. Conyers’s alleged victim came out of his taxpayer-funded office budget. Generally, though, these payments aren’t made by members of Congress or their offices. They’re made by a special section of the Department of the Treasury established under Section 415 of the CAA — and ultimately by the American taxpayer.
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Really, REALLY hard to listen to the GOP complain about how marriage shouldn't be abused when a good chunk of them can't keep their dick in their pants. While being married and everything!

ETA: At least whatever Omar is doing isn't costing the taxpayer millions of dollars.
 
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johnny karate said:
Social media posts: The bedrock of any reliable and thorough investigation.
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I'm not sure why the fact that someone said something on social media makes it any less valid than if they said it in some other context. This isn't third party testimony here, it's the actual people involved.
 
Ziggurat said:
I'm not sure why the fact that someone said something on social media makes it any less valid than if they said it in some other context. This isn't third party testimony here, it's the actual people involved.
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these are the kind of records that aren't hard to get if you look for more evidence than hearsay.
 
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