"SEND HER BACK!" Will they defend this?

[Mycroft]

Apparently the part you missed is the fact that Neoliberals are not liberals or even leftists? They sit squarely in the center of Wall Street and know no other ideology other than using the power of their money to increase their power and money. Their primary strategy is obfuscate deny confuse and mislead publicly while privately making backroom deals to insert the right people for regulatory capture, thus protecting their ill gotten gains with the full weight and measure of the US government and military.

If true then it seems like you need a better name for them than "neoliberals."

 

[Red Baron Farms]

If true then it seems like you need a better name for them than "neoliberals."

I didn't name it, only use it properly. Even gave both the wiki page definition and an hour long lecture for people to learn what it means if they lacked than knowledge..many do obviously.

After that my obligation is done.

 

[Mycroft]

RBF seems to be a single issue poster with strong opinions and some subject matter expertise.

Man, I was totally reading RBF to mean resting bitch face. I'm glad that's cleared up!

 

[Mycroft]

Man, I was totally reading RBF to mean resting bitch face. I'm glad that's cleared up!

I was relying on the auto-censor to cover that up, but I guess that word is okay?

 

[GlennB]

I was relying on the auto-censor to cover that up, but I guess that word is okay?

It's a female dog. In your case maybe a bitch of a yellow card is heading your way

 

[Mycroft]

First, the police officer has no more authority or ability to shoot AOC than any other citizen.

All murder is conducted without the proper authority to do so. That's part of the definition of murder.

Second, it's not reasonable to assume that the police officer's audience is more likely to include an inciteable psycho than fuelair's audience here. If the concern is violent hyperbole inciting violent acts, then I think that concern applies equally to fuelair's audience. Because who knows when or where a violent psycho will notice and latch on to such ideas? It's risky either way. And equally risky, in my opinion.

It seems like both Fuelair and the police officer have been appropriately dealt with. What are you arguing here?

 

[Mycroft]

I didn't name it, only use it properly. Even gave both the wiki page definition and an hour long lecture for people to learn what it means if they lacked than knowledge..many do obviously.

After that my obligation is done.

Given that these people are neither liberal nor new, it seems like a bad choice and I doubt it will catch on.

 

[The Shrike]

. . . my core beliefs are very very very different than the liberal dominated Democrat party platform.

The very public schism in the Democratic party is exactly because it is NOT "liberal dominated". It's center-right at best. This is a main reason why Trump is president right now: disaffected liberals within the Democratic party did not come out to vote for Clinton because (among other reasons) they saw her as a hawkish, corporatist, centrist.

Your fear of Democrats is misplaced. This is what decades of fox poisoning the news cycles has done.

I am a Teddy Roosevelt style conservationist,

That sounds good, but which part of Roosevelt's style appeals to you?

• It can't be the blatant racism – especially toward Native Americans – because you've already disavowed racists.
  
• Is it his calls for national inheritance tax and progressive income taxes due to his fears of income inequality? That doesn't sound very conservative by today's GOP. It sounds a bit more like Bernie Sanders looking for ways to fund some big program (i.e., left of the Democratic party).
  
• Federal control over interstate and international commerce, including a nationalized railroad? That Teddy Roosevelt?
  
• Teddy Roosevelt the conservationist is a hero of mine, too. But check out who he says should be in charge of conservation, and think about how that squares with the modern GOP: "Let me add that the health and vitality of our people are at least as well worth conserving as their forests, waters, lands, and minerals, and in this great work the national government must bear most important part."
  
• Central to the Square Deal was ridding corruption from politics, e.g., corporations are not people. "Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit."

Taxation, commerce, corporate regulation, federal control of conservation – these ideas would fit much better under the modern Democratic party tent than under today's GOP. Don't be scared. It's okay. You're not a bad person. You're just a Democrat.

not some silly GreenPeace commie treehugger environmentalist.

Again, you seem to need some cartoonish caricature of a liberal American as your boogieman. People like this exist I suppose, but it is ludicrous to use such pejoratives to characterize the Democratic party. The sort of wacko you're describing here would be openly hostile to the Democratic party of the US.

I have literally NO respect for the latter (that includes AOC) as I strongly believe they do far more harm than good. Their only redeeming value is some of them actually care for the environment (probably not AOC) and are saddened when their naive attempts fail horribly.

For the past several months, nothing has screamed fragile masculinity to me as loudly as this drumbeat of criticism toward Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The conservative obsession with her is downright creepy.

Oh, and AOC is nowhere near the "GreenPeace commie treehugger environmentalist" that the kool aid has convinced you she is.

Oh well. Have a nice day. I hope your discovery that you're really a Democrat hasn't been too shocking for you.
~fellow Roosevelt guy

 

[quadraginta]

I didn't name it, only use it properly. Even gave both the wiki page definition and an hour long lecture for people to learn what it means if they lacked than knowledge..many do obviously.

The wiki page you cited offers multiple, even somewhat exclusionary definitions. Nothing you have written here makes it clear which of those definitions you intended.

Perhaps you should should read your citations before you share them. At least enough to explain which part you meant to share.

Quotations are a good idea as well.

After that my obligation is done.

It is apparent that you take your obligations lightly.

 

[theprestige]

It seems like both Fuelair and the police officer have been appropriately dealt with. What are you arguing here?

Already addressed.

 

[Trebuchet]

Ok, RBF, since you liked my assessment of Trump, how about my assessment of your party? Which used to be my party.
I come from a long line of Republicans. I proudly wore my I Like Ike button when I was in elementary school. I'd have voted for Nixon in '68 had I been eligible, and did so in '72. Which was a mistake, but I continued to vote for Republicans after.

I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me.

For the past forty years or so, it's become:
The party of fiscal irresponsibility, repeated tax cuts for the rich generating extreme deficits. Thank you so very not-much, David Stockman.

The party of war. Ok, Nixon inherited VietNam. And lost it. Panama? Granada? Serisously? I supported going into Afghanistan, but they bungled it. Iraq was based entirely on lies. Republican lies. And it's turned out SO very well.

The party of hate. Hatred of gays, hatred of transexuals, hatred of anyone not lily white, hatred of foreigners, hatred of women who don't know their place, hatred of foreigners, hatred of non-Christians. And of the wrong kinds of Christians.

Oh, but it was the Democrats who supported slavery! Yeah, that was 160 years ago. Give me a break. And all those Southern Dems who were against civil rights in the '60's are Republicans now.

Trump is NOT an aberration. He's what the Republican Party has been moving toward for the past 50 years. If you support that party, you support Trump whether you think so or not. And I pity you for it.

Oh, I'm going to report my post as soon as it's up and request a split. Seriously off-topic.

Crickets. What a surprise.

 

[BrooklynBaby]

Based on everything that is out there about Omar, she should be sent back to where she came from (Kenya or Somalia? Don't know how that works) because she's here illegally, and it appears her name isn't even Omar. And, there's much, much more. Of course, it's going to be a battle because she'll have political protection from the Democrats like Antifa does. Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint with the House Office of Congressional Ethics saying "Substantial, compelling and, to date, unrefuted evidence has been uncovered that Rep. Ilhan Omar may have committed the following crimes in violation of both federal law and Minnesota state law: perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, state and federal tax fraud, and federal student loan fraud."

So, she's in the deepest of doo doo, and refuses to answer questions about anything involving this stuff.

 

[pgwenthold]

Wow, Republicans live in a completely different reality, don't they?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Based on everything that is out there about Omar, she should be sent back to where she came from (Kenya or Somalia? Don't know how that works) because she's here illegally, and it appears her name isn't even Omar. And, there's much, much more. Of course, it's going to be a battle because she'll have political protection from the Democrats like Antifa does. Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint with the House Office of Congressional Ethics saying "Substantial, compelling and, to date, unrefuted evidence has been uncovered that Rep. Ilhan Omar may have committed the following crimes in violation of both federal law and Minnesota state law: perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, state and federal tax fraud, and federal student loan fraud."

So, she's in the deepest of doo doo, and refuses to answer questions about anything involving this stuff.

Yeah, I hear she was funneling white teenagers to the basement of the pizza parlor, too! And drove those three million illegal voters to the polls, personally. And is on a first name basis with the Ayatollah!

 

[Shalamar]

Based on everything that is out there about Omar, she should be sent back to where she came from (Kenya or Somalia? Don't know how that works) because she's here illegally, and it appears her name isn't even Omar. And, there's much, much more. Of course, it's going to be a battle because she'll have political protection from the Democrats like Antifa does. Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint with the House Office of Congressional Ethics saying "Substantial, compelling and, to date, unrefuted evidence has been uncovered that Rep. Ilhan Omar may have committed the following crimes in violation of both federal law and Minnesota state law: perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, state and federal tax fraud, and federal student loan fraud."

So, she's in the deepest of doo doo, and refuses to answer questions about anything involving this stuff.

You must be such a Proud Boy.

 

[BrooklynBaby]

You must be such a Proud Boy.

Just stating facts and projecting the results. If you have evidence Omar's name isn't really Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, feel free to put it up. If not, we'll probably have to wait until the ethics committee (50-50 Dem-GOP) says something, because Omar isn't talking about it. If it were me, I would correct the record immediately. No reason not to do so.

 

[smartcooky]

Based on everything that is out there about Omar, she should be sent back to where she came from (Kenya or Somalia? Don't know how that works) because she's here illegally, and it appears her name isn't even Omar. And, there's much, much more. Of course, it's going to be a battle because she'll have political protection from the Democrats like Antifa does. Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint with the House Office of Congressional Ethics saying "Substantial, compelling and, to date, unrefuted evidence has been uncovered that Rep. Ilhan Omar may have committed the following crimes in violation of both federal law and Minnesota state law: perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, state and federal tax fraud, and federal student loan fraud."

So, she's in the deepest of doo doo, and refuses to answer questions about anything involving this stuff.

Didn't need to read past the highlight...

 

[Norman Alexander]

Just stating facts and projecting the results. If you have evidence Omar's name isn't really Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, feel free to put it up. If not, we'll probably have to wait until the ethics committee (50-50 Dem-GOP) says something, because Omar isn't talking about it. If it were me, I would correct the record immediately. No reason not to do so.

And John Wayne's name wasn't really John Wayne. That means he wasn't really a cowboy but a bank-robber.

Seriously, are you going anywhere with this nonsense??

 

[Shalamar]

Just stating facts and projecting the results. If you have evidence Omar's name isn't really Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, feel free to put it up. If not, we'll probably have to wait until the ethics committee (50-50 Dem-GOP) says something, because Omar isn't talking about it. If it were me, I would correct the record immediately. No reason not to do so.

I also don't have evidence that her name really isn't Anakin Skywalker. She must be a padawan killing Sith Lord!

 

[smartcooky]

Just stating facts and projecting the results. If you have evidence Omar's name isn't really Ilhan Nur Said Elmi...

Oh dear me... you really have no idea, do you?

YES, her name WAS Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, because she was married to Ahmed Nur Said Elmi until 2017 (separated in 2011). She went back to her family name "Omar" (her father was Nur Omar Mohamed). There is nothing nefarious about this; divorced women do this frequently.

YES, she filed joint tax returns with her then boyfriend Ahmed Hirsi, when she was separated (but still married) because she was living in a DeFacto relationship with Hirsi at the time. It is not NOT illegal, even in the USA for a person to live in a DeFacto relationship while still legally married to a previous spouse.

Oh, and by the way it is not at all suspicious that both her father and her husband have the prefix "Nur" in the their names. "Nur" (pronounced "Noor") is a unisex name meaning "light" and is part of their given name, not their surname.

And here's another thing you might want to know when you are busy "othering" brown skinned people of the Islamic persuasion. In traditional Islam, it was customary to place the family name first followed by the given name. However, many Islamic immigrants modernised their names according to western convention to better fit it... Ilhan Omar would more traditionally be know as Omar Ilhan

All these BS attacks on her are unwarranted... just Birtherism V2.0