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Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion - continuation thread

"Washington Post" did an aritical about how the Moon Hoaxers are try8ing to exploit the 50th anniversary of the Apollo Landings.
 
50 years after Apollo, conspiracy theorists are still howling at the ‘moon hoax’

Money quote:

Conspiracy theories may seem strange and fringe, but they are not harmless. They often transmit racist, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic beliefs. In their most toxic form, these theories have led to violence, including mass shootings. Behind many conspiracy theories lurks a pervasive rage. Many researchers and communicators who deal with fringe conspiracy theories endure venomous and misogynistic threats and harassment.​
 
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50 years after Apollo, conspiracy theorists are still howling at the ‘moon hoax’

Money quote:

Conspiracy theories may seem strange and fringe, but they are not harmless. They often transmit racist, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic beliefs. In their most toxic form, these theories have led to violence, including mass shootings. Behind many conspiracy theories lurks a pervasive rage. Many researchers and communicators who deal with fringe conspiracy theories endure venomous and misogynistic threats and harassment.​

Well I don't know if they are harmless or not but they are stupid individuals. An irritant at best. ;)
 
Well I don't know if they are harmless or not but they are stupid individuals. An irritant at best. ;)

Well, they irritated the wrong person when they irritated Buzz Aldrin.
That video of him decking a moonbat who called him a liar to his face is a thing of beauty.
 
I just read another (Mitchell? ) gave some CTer a boot to the ass as well, some years back.
Hadn't heard that one before.
 
And this means what in the Moon landing hoax? LOL

Nothing, of course. The Atomic Energy Commission doesn't grant security clearances. Kaysing was essentially a librarian. Anyone who has access to classified materials, even just to file them on the shelf, must have some degree of clearance to see and handle them. That doesn't mean he knows what they meant.

People point to his security clearance as evidence that, if there was a smoking gun, he would have seen it. But he has no smoking gun. He just has a pile of inexpert inferences that he drew from largely public information. For example, Kaysing claimed you should be able to see "trillions of stars." That the astronauts didn't report such a stunning sight is evidence in his mind that they didn't really go. But of course nothing about "trillions" of stars comes from a security clearance. Kaysing was just pandering his layman's misunderstandings to an eager audience.
 
I have never understood the "no stars" argument. My goto on that one is "go try photograph stars, see how that works out for you". So far, no response.
 
Re stars: in addition to still, film-based photographs, there were some videos, right? These are also film-based, right?

If so, then maybe the videos could be processed to show stars. Here’s my idea:

Assume x frames per second. Assume the individual frames, with sky in them, can be registered, as in each pixel can be associated with an (RA, Dec) position. To an accuracy of ~5”, say (yeah, I’m ignoring the challenge of converting a film frame to pixels).

Pick the brightest stars that were in the sky. Stack all registered patches of film frame with these stars in them. The signal - the stars - will add; the blank/black sky will not (essentially just noise, which won’t be correlated). Maybe the signal will rise above the noise?
 
Apollo 16 carried the Far Ultraviolet Camera/Spectrograph.
It was designed to take pictures of stars.
 
Poll finds 57 percent of Russians (up from 40% in 2011) believe the Apollo landings were fake while only 24 percent believe they happened as announced. While reading, bear in mind that the website is the exact opposite of (hehe) Sputnik News, though. US state-sponsored propaganda. ;)
 
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Poll finds 57 percent of Russians (up from 40% in 2011) believe the Apollo landings were fake while only 24 percent believe they happened as announced. While reading, bear in mind that the website is the exact opposite of (hehe) Sputnik News, though. US state-sponsored propaganda. ;)

Argumentum ad populum is, of course, a fallacious argument in matters of fact.

Dave
 

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