Merged The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah

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[Quran 39.5] [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawer in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?

http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.htm
 
The majority of the English translations of the Quran verse 36.38 say the sun goes to a resting place. The following hadith makes it clear what this means. It means Muhammad thought the sun orbits a flat earth, and is reset to its starting point every dawn.

The hadith also says the one day the sun will be sent back on its course and then it will rise in the west. This would only happen if it were orbiting the earth, not as some lying Imams claim, if it were orbiting the galaxy.

36:38

Pickthall- And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.

Yusuf Ali- And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing.

Hilali-Khan- And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing.

Shakir- And the sun runs on to a term appointed for it; that is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knowing.

Sher Ali- And the sun is moving on to its determined goal. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing God.

Khalifa- The sun sets into a specific location, according to the design of the Almighty, the Omniscient.

Arberry- And the sun -- it runs to a fixed resting-place; that is the ordaining of the All-mighty, the All-knowing.

Palmer- and the sun runs on to a place of rest for it; that is the ordinance of the mighty, the wise.

Rodwell- And the Sun hasteneth to her place of rest. This, the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knowing!

Sale- And the sun hasteneth to his place of rest. This [is] the disposition of the mighty, the wise [God].

Darwood- THe sun hastens on to its resting place its course is laid for it by the mighty one, the All-knowing.

Marriful- And the sun is quickly proceeding towards its resting place.



Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:
Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)
 
Emre_1974tr said:
[Quran 39.5] [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawer in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?

http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.htm
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No, he isn't. Allah is a figment of fevered imaginations, nothing more. It is foolish to believe in him/her/it/housecat. It is not real.
 
If Barnabas wrote it this is the book of hadith too

The books of people like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John or Bukhari are hadith books.

As you know, the only true holy book we have is the Qur'an.

Now there is allegedly a new Gospel of Barnabas in Turkey.

"Vatican In Shock As 1,500-Year-Old Bible Claims Jesus Wasn’t Crucified"

http://allchristiannews.com/vatican...EckI0oC6kWYGwjT6lX63eYg#.XNGTeef1eRc.facebook

If Barnabas wrote it, it is a book of hadith, not a holy book. If it is the true Bible, it will contain the words of God, just like the Qur'an.

"An approximately 1,500-2,000-year-old Bible found in Turkey has left the Vatican in shock because it allegedly confirms that Jesus Christ wasn’t crucified as has come to be widely believed. "
 
Emre_1974tr said:
As you know, the only true holy book we have is the Qur'an.
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No. To this audience they are all equally superstitious. And no one cares to hear you evangelize your peculiar brand of Islam. You aren't intellectually capable of actually discussing these issues in a comparative religion sort of way, which is the only real interest this forum has.

Now there is allegedly a new Gospel of Barnabas in Turkey.
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And if you knew anything about early Christian scripture, you'd know there is a lot of apocryphal stuff that Christians rightly reject as, well, apocryphal. Stop getting your information about other religions from click bait.
 
JayUtah said:
And if you knew anything about early Christian scripture, you'd know there is a lot of apocryphal stuff that Christians rightly reject as, well, apocryphal.
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(My emphasis). What do you mean by "rightly" here? It could mean "upholding the existing dogma", but I doubt that is what you mean.
The description of this scripture sounds to me like a piece of forgery, and perhaps that is what you meant?
 
It could be an interesting find, but unfortunately none of the "experts and religious bodies" that have studied the thing are named in the article, and the links the article uses to the source don't seem to work anymore. If there was any scholarly research done on it, you would expect there to be some article in a scholarly journal instead of on a now non-existent news article on a now non-existent website as its only source.

I bet most experts on these things would consider the book very odd and would hesitate declaring it as "authentic". I mean, the text is written in gold; that's pretty weird, innit? How do you even write in gold?

Even if it is authentic, if the estimate of its age of 1500 years is off by just a few hundred years, the fact that it "foretells" the prophet Muhammed (pbuh) becomes a lot less impressive. The article also doesn't mention how specific this foretelling is.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
The books of people like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John or Bukhari are hadith books.
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Hadiths in Islam refers to the record of the words, actions, and the silent approval, of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
The bible books are not called hadiths
Emre_1974tr said:
As you know, the only true holy book we have is the Qur'an.
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If the Quran is a holy book we are all doomed, because the God it describes is a monster.
 
Fiction down to the last comma all of it. A tool of man written to dominate and suppress other people.
 
"The gospel claims that Christ was neither crucified nor was he God’s son. Instead, it says he was just a prophet. The book also refers to Apostle Paul as “The Impostor” and further claims that Christ ascended back to heaven alive, with Judas Iscariot being crucified in his place."

They are accurate and nice information. But as I said, if his book contains the narrative of Barnabas, it is the book of hadith. Just like Matthew, Bukhari or John.

But if it contains the words of God directly like the Qur'an, it is the Gospel.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
"The gospel claims that Christ was neither crucified nor was he God’s son. Instead, it says he was just a prophet. The book also refers to Apostle Paul as “The Impostor” and further claims that Christ ascended back to heaven alive, with Judas Iscariot being crucified in his place.
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Then it contains the foulest of heresy and was obviously written by Satan.
 
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Emre_1974tr said:
"The gospel claims that Christ was neither crucified nor was he God’s son. Instead, it says he was just a prophet. The book also refers to Apostle Paul as “The Impostor” and further claims that Christ ascended back to heaven alive, with Judas Iscariot being crucified in his place."

They are accurate and nice information. But as I said, if his book contains the narrative of Barnabas, it is the book of hadith. Just like Matthew, Bukhari or John.

But if it contains the words of God directly like the Qur'an, it is the Gospel.
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Better than the Quran perhaps because it is written in gold! What better sign of "The finger of God" could you wish for. And after all it has been examined by experts and religious bodies no less. No wonder The Pope is looking at the situations vacant section of the paper.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
They are accurate and nice information. But as I said, if his book contains the narrative of Barnabas, it is the book of hadith. Just like Matthew, Bukhari or John.
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It would be difficult to decide where to begin describing all the errors and misconceptions in this paragraph. You have absolutely no clue when it comes to religions that are not your own, and only a slightly clue about your own religion.

But if it contains the words of God directly like the Qur'an, it is the Gospel.
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No. There is no evident god and therefore there is no book that is the word of that supposed god. I can't imagine what you think you can accomplish by continuing to witness ignorantly to atheists.
 
Earthborn said:
It could be an interesting find, but unfortunately none of the "experts and religious bodies" that have studied the thing are named in the article
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Oh, Christian scholars are well acquainted with the Gospel of Barnabas. They are well acquainted with various apocryphal accounts of Jesus' life and ministry, including the ones claiming Jesus never died but was instead rescued by his disciples from the cross, nursed back to health, and pawned off as "resurrected." None of this is new to anyone who has made a serious academic study of the history of Christianity and its various early writings.

But of course we live in the era of clickbait. Need some clicks? Just pull up some fringe tidbit of Christian history and claim that the Vatican has its cassocks in a twist over it. Since Emre has no working understanding of comparative religion, he's unable to tell clickbait from actual Christian research. He's basically Islamic Bubba.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
"Vatican In Shock As 1,500-Year-Old Bible Claims Jesus Wasn’t Crucified"

http://allchristiannews.com/vatican...EckI0oC6kWYGwjT6lX63eYg#.XNGTeef1eRc.facebook
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From the link:

There is a clique that believes that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church picked the canonical gospel books such as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John​

From the Wiki article on the Council of Nicea, under "Misconceptions":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea#Misconceptions

There is no record of any discussion of the biblical canon at the council.[78]...

The main source of the idea that the Bible was created at the Council of Nicaea seems to be Voltaire, who popularised a story that the canon was determined by placing all the competing books on an altar during the Council and then keeping the ones that did not fall off. The original source of this "fictitious anecdote" is the Synodicon Vetus,[81] a pseudo-historical account of early Church councils from AD 887​

Some early Christians believed that Jesus couldn't have been crucified since a perfect being couldn't suffer, thus someone else was crucified in his stead. So, if the Bible from that link exists at all, it would seem to be from one of those early sects.
 
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